From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>, Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-net@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:24:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <471699A0.3060303@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47168EA1.1080300@tmr.com>
Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>> If not, then shouldn't the filter table be obsoleted to avoid
>>>> confusion?
>>> That would probably confuse people. Just don't use it if you don't
>>> need to.
>>
> That is a most practical suggestion.
>
>> The problem is that people think they are safe with the filter table,
>> when in fact they need the prerouting chain to seal things. Right now
>> this is only possible in the mangle table.
>>
> I'm not sure what you think is unsafe about using the filter table, and
> the order of evaluation issues certainly seem to suggest that some
> actions would take a major rethink at least. Perhaps you could avoid
> breaking all of the setups which currently work, rather than force
> everyone to do things differently because you feel that your way is better.
>
It was my intention to suggest that unintentional breakage of existing
setups should be avoided, not that removing the filter table was some
evil plot. ;-)
On rereading my original post I failed to make that clear, please take
it as intended.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-17 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200710120031.42805.a1426z@gawab.com>
[not found] ` <470EF994.4080403@trash.net>
2007-10-12 4:39 ` [RFD] iptables: mangle table obsoletes filter table Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 5:37 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 11:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 12:25 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 12:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 13:18 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 13:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 22:56 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-17 22:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-17 23:24 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-10-20 3:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-20 4:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-20 11:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-21 4:31 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-21 4:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-23 22:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-12 13:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 13:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 13:48 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 14:02 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-12 14:03 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 22:56 ` Al Boldi
2007-10-12 23:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2007-10-12 5:14 Al Boldi
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