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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Netfilter Developer Mailing List <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TCP connection tracking timeout
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:47:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <488EA0F1.2050906@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080729030104.GA15915@gondor.apana.org.au>

[List address fixed - I assume netfilter-devel@lists.debian.org doesn't 
exist :)]

Herbert Xu wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I've recently started keeping an eye on the number of connections
> in my router's conntrack table.  It was sad to see so many TCP
> connections that have died long ago still lingering in it.  We all
> know that wandering ghosts are bad :)
>
> Here's my proposal to lay them to rest once and for all.  The
> obvious solution is to reduce the timeout.  However, that runs
> afoul of idle connections.  So the key is how do we tell an
> idle connection apart from a dead one.
>
> Actually it isn't too hard.  The most common reason for a connection
> to die without sending FIN/RST is a retransmission timeout.  For
> example in Linux we can enter FIN_WAIT_1 without even transmitting
> the actual FIN because of outstanding data before it.  So if we
> tracked whether each connection has unacknowledged data then we
> will be able to easily distinguish them.  In other words, we can
> drastically lower the timeout on a connection with data outstanding.
>
> The only trouble now is to find a sucker^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteer
> to implement this :)
>   


That sounds like a pretty neat idea. I'm testing a patch now, I'll
send it over in a few minutes if it survives :)


       reply	other threads:[~2008-07-29  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080729030104.GA15915@gondor.apana.org.au>
2008-07-29  4:47 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2008-07-29  5:00   ` TCP connection tracking timeout Patrick McHardy
2008-07-29  6:01     ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-29  6:13       ` Patrick McHardy
2008-07-29  9:07         ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-29  9:30           ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-29 12:30           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-07-29 13:34             ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-29 20:34               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-07-30  1:35                 ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-30 21:18                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-07-31 12:19                     ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-31 19:26                       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-08-01 11:58                         ` Herbert Xu
2008-07-29 12:20         ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2008-07-30 10:07           ` Patrick McHardy

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