From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>, Flavio Leitner <fbl@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
NetFilter <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: preserve sock reference when scrubbing the skb.
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 23:41:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48e15faf-f935-0166-e1db-18f7286e7264@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpX_X4hhSSrhMZavLibobp6tgMEa_26T6j4QvACKg-HPvw@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/25/2018 09:15 PM, Cong Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:59 AM Flavio Leitner <fbl@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> The sock reference is lost when scrubbing the packet and that breaks
>> TSQ (TCP Small Queues) and XPS (Transmit Packet Steering) causing
>> performance impacts of about 50% in a single TCP stream when crossing
>> network namespaces.
>>
>> XPS breaks because the queue mapping stored in the socket is not
>> available, so another random queue might be selected when the stack
>> needs to transmit something like a TCP ACK, or TCP Retransmissions.
>> That causes packet re-ordering and/or performance issues.
>>
>> TSQ breaks because it orphans the packet while it is still in the
>> host, so packets are queued contributing to the buffer bloat problem.
>
> Why should TSQ in one stack care about buffer bloat in another stack?
>
> Actually, I think the current behavior is correct, once the packet leaves
> its current stack (or netns), it should relief the backpressure on TCP
> socket in this stack, whether it will be queued in another stack is beyond
> its concern. This breaks the isolation between networking stacks.
>
We discussed about this during netconf Cong, nobody was against this planned removal.
When a packet is attached to a socket, we should keep the association as much as possible.
Only when a new association needs to be done, skb_orphan() needs to be called.
Doing this skb_orphan() too soon breaks back pressure in general, this is bad, since a socket
can evades SO_SNDBUF limits.
I am not sure why the patch is so complex, I would have simply removed the skb_orphan().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-26 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-06-25 15:56 [PATCH net-next] net: preserve sock reference when scrubbing the skb Flavio Leitner
2018-06-26 4:15 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-26 6:41 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2018-06-26 12:38 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-26 13:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-06-26 13:32 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-26 21:48 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-26 22:03 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-26 22:47 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-26 23:33 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-27 0:29 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 0:39 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-27 1:28 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 12:31 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-27 19:06 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 20:19 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-06-28 21:51 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 2:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-06-26 23:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-06-27 0:44 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 2:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-06-27 18:59 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-27 19:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-06-27 19:55 ` Cong Wang
2018-06-28 23:18 ` Cong Wang
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