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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: James King <t.james.king@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Targets with "mangle" table limiting (Was: Re: Troubles with MARK target in 2.6.28)
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:47:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <496F3E5A.9050607@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38bcb3ec0901150408h39390a74s6fcc9f722094715d@mail.gmail.com>

James King wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de> wrote:
>> Namely that MARK.2 is available for all tables. It looks like an error,
>> given that the previous ones were all limited to the mangle table.
>> But, I would have to ask - what do we gain from limiting it to mangle?
>> All other *MARK targets are available for all tables too, so what was
>> the original reason for the table limit?
>>
>> I could imagine it having to do with routing (nfmark can be used as
>> a routing key, as can TOS/DSCP):
>>
>>> target TOS             1       mangle  IPv4    *       *            2
>>> target TOS             0       mangle  IPv4    *       *            1
>>> target DSCP            0       mangle  IPv4    *       *            1
>> then again, MARK has more uses than just for routing; it can, for example,
>> serve as a way to reduce the number of rules by remembering some previous
>> result.
>> What do others think?
> 
> The only place I can see in the mangle table where nfmark has any
> special consideration is in ipt_local_hook(), in case the local output
> packet needs to be rerouted, but it seems a bit heavy handed to
> restrict MARK there based on that one edge case.  It might be useful
> to have it available elsewhere, for example to be able to refine the
> mark as it passes through the different tables, especially now that
> the mark is maskable.

Agreed, it doesn't make sense to restrict it to mangle only.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-15 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <86617ABF8F494F2A940C18251E3DC8D0@Hakkenden>
2009-01-12  6:19 ` Troubles with MARK target in 2.6.28 Patrick McHardy
2009-01-12  7:08   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-12  7:15     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-12  7:18       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-14  5:39         ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-15  8:06           ` Targets with "mangle" table limiting (Was: Re: Troubles with MARK target in 2.6.28) Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-15 12:08             ` James King
2009-01-15 13:47               ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-01-15 16:44                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-15 22:38                   ` James King
2009-01-16  8:04                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-18  7:32                       ` James King
2009-01-16  7:33                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-16  8:15                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-16  8:19                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-18  7:08                       ` James King
2009-01-19 14:29                         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-15 13:57           ` Troubles with MARK target in 2.6.28 Patrick McHardy
2009-01-15 14:06             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-01-15 15:51               ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-15 15:54                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-15 15:58                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-15 16:03                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-15 16:20                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-16  7:33                         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-16  8:14                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-01-12 18:12   ` Nikolay S. Rybaloff

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