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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netfilter: xtables: add cluster match
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:27:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <499985F1.6070004@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <499981FA.3040106@trash.net>

Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
>> Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
>>> Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>>> I see. That kind of makes sense, but if you're running a
>>>> synchronization daemon anyways, you might as well renumber
>>>> all nodes so you still have proper balancing, right?
>>
>> Hm, I was not replying to your question ;). Right, the renumbering 
>> also requires getting the states back to the original node. We can use 
>> the same hashing approach in userspace to know which states belong to 
>> original node that has come back to life when it requests a 
>> resynchronization.
>>
>>> Indeed, the daemon may also add a new rule for the node that has gone 
>>> down but that results in another extra hash operation to mark it or 
>>> not (one extra hash per rule) :(.
>>
>> This is not true. We may have something like this (assuming two nodes):
> 
> To whom are you replying now? :)

To myself, never mind :)

>> if no mark set and hash % 2 == 0, accept
>> if no mark set and hash % 2 == 1, accept
>> if no mark set, drop
>>
>> So we can still do this adding rules with the iptables interface. But 
>> still having the /proc looks like a simple interface for this.
> 
> I'm sure someone would argue that changing TCP port numbers of
> the tcp match through proc would be a nice and simple interface.
> The fact though is that we have an interface for handing a
> configuration to the kernel and this is clearly a configuration
> parameter. We're missing a proper way to use it in userspace
> from within programs (well, hopefully not for long anymore),
> but that needs to be fixed in userspace.

Right right, I have no more arguments to support the /proc interface ;). 
I'll send you a patch without it late at night.

-- 
"Los honestos son inadaptados sociales" -- Les Luthiers

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-16 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-14 19:29 [PATCH] netfilter: xtables: add cluster match Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-14 20:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-14 20:42   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-14 22:31     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-14 22:32       ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-16 10:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16 14:01   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16 14:03     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16 14:30       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16 15:01         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16 15:14         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16 15:10           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16 15:27             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2009-02-17 10:46             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-17 10:50               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-17 13:50                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-17 19:45                   ` Vincent Bernat
2009-02-18 10:14                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 10:13                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 11:06                     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-18 11:14                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 17:20                       ` Vincent Bernat
2009-02-18 17:25                         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 18:38                           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16 17:17         ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-16 17:13     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-16 17:16       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16 17:22         ` Jan Engelhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-16  9:23 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16  9:31 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-16 12:13   ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-16 12:17     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-16  9:32 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-19 23:14 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-20  9:24 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 13:15   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-20 13:48     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 16:52       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-20 20:50 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-20 20:56 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-23 10:13 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-24 13:46 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-24 14:05   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-24 14:06     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-24 23:13       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-25  5:52         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-25  9:42           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-02-25 10:20             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-16 16:11 ` Patrick McHardy

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