From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, Martin Josefsson <gandalf@wlug.westbo.se>
Subject: Re: [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending()
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:33:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <499C000A.4040205@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090218120508.GB4100@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:
>
>> We need to avoid having a timer that was deleted by one CPU
>> getting re-added by another, but want to avoid taking the
>> conntrack lock for every timer update. The timer-internal
>> locking is enough for this as long as we have a mod_timer
>> variant that forwards a timer, but doesn't activate it in
>> case it isn't active already.
>
> that makes sense - but the implementation is still somewhat
> ugly. How about the one below instead? Not tested.
This seems to fulfill our needs. I also like the mod_timer_pending()
name better than mod_timer_noact().
> One open question is this construct in mod_timer():
>
> + /*
> + * This is a common optimization triggered by the
> + * networking code - if the timer is re-modified
> + * to be the same thing then just return:
> + */
> + if (timer->expires == expires && timer_pending(timer))
> + return 1;
>
> We've had this for ages, but it seems rather SMP-unsafe.
> timer_pending(), if used in an unserialized fashion, can be any
> random value in theory - there's no internal serialization here
> anywhere.
>
> We could end up with incorrectly not re-activating a timer in
> mod_timer() for example - have such things never been observed
> in practice?
Yes, it seems racy if done for timers that might get activated.
For forwarding only without activation it seems OK, in that case
the timer_pending check doesn't seem necessary at all.
> So the original patch which added this to mod_timer_noact() was
> racy i think, and we cannot preserve this optimization outside
> of the timer list lock. (we could do it inside of it.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-18 12:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 5:19 [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 1/4] iptables: lock free counters Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:02 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-19 19:47 ` [PATCH] " Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-19 23:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 23:56 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 1:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-20 1:18 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 22:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-21 0:35 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-20 9:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 18:10 ` [PATCH] iptables: xt_hashlimit fix Eric Dumazet
2009-02-20 18:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 1:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-28 6:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-28 8:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-02-24 14:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-27 14:02 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:08 ` [PATCH] rcu: increment quiescent state counter in ksoftirqd() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-27 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 10:55 ` [PATCH] iptables: lock free counters Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-02 21:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:02 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-02 22:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-03-02 22:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-02 22:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 9:30 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 11:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 21:39 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 22:04 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-18 22:47 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 22:56 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 10:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 12:05 ` [patch] timers: add mod_timer_pending() Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:33 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-02-18 12:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 12:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 13:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 18:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-18 19:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18 10:29 ` [RFT 2/4] Add mod_timer_noact Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 3/4] Use mod_timer_noact to remove nf_conntrack_lock Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:54 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 11:05 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-02-18 11:08 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:04 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 14:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 5:19 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 9:56 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 14:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 22:03 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-28 16:55 ` [PATCH] netfilter: finer grained nf_conn locking Eric Dumazet
2009-03-29 0:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 19:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-06 12:07 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-06 12:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-06 17:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-03-30 18:57 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-30 19:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 19:38 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 19:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 20:34 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 20:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-30 21:25 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2009-03-30 22:44 ` Rick Jones
2009-02-18 21:55 ` [RFT 4/4] netfilter: Get rid of central rwlock in tcp conntracking David Miller
2009-02-18 23:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 23:35 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-02-18 8:30 ` [RFT 0/4] Netfilter/iptables performance improvements Eric Dumazet
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