From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> Cc: shemminger@vyatta.com, kaber@trash.net, jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paulus@samba.org, mingo@elte.hu, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jengelh@medozas.de, r000n@r000n.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:26:58 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <49E6CFB2.2020905@cosmosbay.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20090415.164811.19905145.davem@davemloft.net> David Miller a écrit : > From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:07:29 +0200 > >> Well, it seems original patch was not so bad after all >> >> http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter-devel/2006-January/023175.html >> >> So change per-cpu spinlocks to per-cpu rwlocks >> >> and use read_lock() in ipt_do_table() to allow recursion... > > Grumble, one more barrier to getting rid of rwlocks in the whole > tree. :-/ > > I really think we should entertain the idea where we don't RCU quiesce > when adding rules. That was dismissed as not workable because the new > rule must be "visible" as soon as we return to userspace but let's get > real, effectively it will be. We had to RCU quiesce to be sure old rules were not any more used before freeing them. Alternative is to defer freeing via call_rcu() but subject to OOM. With 200 basic rules, size of rules table is about 40960 bytes per cpu. (88 pages taken on vmalloc virtual space on my 8 cpus machine) 0xfcaf8000-0xfcb03000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb04000-0xfcb0f000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb10000-0xfcb1b000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb1c000-0xfcb27000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb28000-0xfcb33000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb34000-0xfcb3f000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb40000-0xfcb4b000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc 0xfcb4c000-0xfcb57000 45056 xt_alloc_table_info+0xa8/0xd0 pages=10 vmalloc This kind of monolithic huge object is hard to handle with RCU semantic, more suitable for handling set of small objects (struct file for example), even if RCU can have a backoff of 10000 elements in its queue... > > If there are any stale object reference issues, we can use RCU object > destruction to handle that kind of thing. > > I almost cringed when the per-spinlock idea was proposed, but per-cpu > rwlocks just takes things too far for my tastes. In my humble opinion, this is a reasonnable compromise, and Stephen patch version 4 is ok for me.
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2009-04-11 1:25 ` iptables very slow after commit784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 David Miller
2009-04-11 1:39 ` iptables very slow after commit 784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 4:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 5:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-11 5:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 6:00 ` David Miller
2009-04-11 18:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-04-11 18:32 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2009-04-12 0:54 ` david
2009-04-12 5:05 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-04-12 12:30 ` Harald Welte
2009-04-12 16:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-11 15:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 16:05 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-11 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-11 15:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-12 10:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-12 11:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-12 17:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-13 1:13 ` David Miller
2009-04-13 4:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-13 16:53 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 17:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-13 18:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 19:06 ` Martin Josefsson
2009-04-13 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-13 23:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-13 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 23:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 12:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 14:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 15:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 16:51 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-14 18:17 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v2) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 19:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 21:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 21:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 21:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 10:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 16:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 20:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 21:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 21:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-16 12:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 12:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-16 12:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 21:57 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu rwlock rather than RCU (v4) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 23:48 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) David Miller
2009-04-16 0:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 0:05 ` David Miller
2009-04-16 12:28 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 0:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:45 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock and RCU (v5) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 5:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 13:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 14:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 16:10 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive spinlock (v6) Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 16:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 16:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 17:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 18:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 20:49 ` [PATCH[] netfilter: use per-cpu reader-writer lock (v0.7) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 23:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 0:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive spinlock (v6) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 13:11 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 22:33 ` David Miller
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 23:52 ` [PATCH] netfilter: per-cpu spin-lock with recursion (v0.8) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 0:15 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-17 5:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 6:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 6:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 17:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 11:17 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-17 1:28 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 2:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 5:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 5:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 14:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 4:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 5:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 5:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 8:07 ` David Miller
2009-04-17 15:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 6:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 21:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-18 9:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-18 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 17:34 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v10) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 18:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 18:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-20 20:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 20:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 21:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 21:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-20 21:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 22:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-20 23:01 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v11) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 3:41 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 3:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 4:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 5:22 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 5:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 6:52 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 8:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-21 8:42 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 8:49 ` David Miller
2009-04-21 8:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 9:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-21 9:34 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 5:34 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 4:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-21 5:46 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 16:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 18:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 18:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 19:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 19:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 8:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 10:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 11:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 15:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 20:46 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 21:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-22 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 21:39 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v13) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-22 4:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-22 14:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-24 4:09 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive lock {XIV} Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 4:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-24 15:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-24 16:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 20:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-25 20:30 ` [PATCH] netfilter: iptables no lockdep is needed Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-26 8:18 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-26 18:24 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive lock {XV} Eric Dumazet
2009-04-26 18:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-26 21:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-26 22:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-27 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-27 18:30 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU r**ursive " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-27 19:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 20:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-27 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 21:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 6:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-28 11:53 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 13:43 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 13:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-28 14:37 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 14:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-28 15:00 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 16:24 ` [PATCH] netfilter: revised locking for x_tables Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-28 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-29 5:37 ` David Miller
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2009-04-30 3:26 ` Jeff Chua
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2009-04-30 3:31 ` David Miller
2009-05-01 8:38 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use likely() in xt_info_rdlock_bh() Eric Dumazet
2009-05-01 16:10 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 15:42 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU r**ursive lock {XV} Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 17:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-28 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-28 14:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 7:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-26 19:31 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive " Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-26 20:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-26 21:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-21 18:34 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v11) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-21 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-20 23:44 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v10) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 0:02 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 6:26 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-04-16 14:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-15 3:23 ` David Miller
2009-04-14 17:19 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 15:50 ` iptables very slow after commit 784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 0:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-12 7:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-12 16:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-12 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
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