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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add support to log original and NAT-ed IP addresses
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:58:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EC474E.8090604@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0904201012170.10463@blackhole.kfki.hu>

Hi Jozsef,

Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Attached you can find patches for netfilter and iptabes to support the 
> logging of the original and NAT-ed IP addresses together.
> 
> Currently there's no way to do it by netfilter/iptables. If we log in the 
> filter table, there we can record the original src IP address only. 
> However, we cannot log the src IP address after NAT at all: SNAT happens 
> in the nat table at POSTROUTING, and there's no other table to which the 
> logging rule could be added (and the NAT targets return ACCEPT, so we 
> cannot add the loggin rule to the nat table either).
> 
> The only way to log src/dst IP before/after NAT presently is to run 
> 'conntrack' in event mode like this:
> 
> 	conntrack -E -e NEW | logger -p kernel.info

We can also do this by means of ulogd2 or, alternatively, conntrackd in
its very basic statistics mode.

> which is a little bit cumbersome and requires the libnfnetlink, 
> libnetfilter_conntrack libraries too.

Yes, this needs some extra user-space software. With regards to logging,
I think that the current policy is to move most of the logics to
user-space, I don't think that overloading iptables with yet another
logging facility is the way to go.

> The attached netfilter patch is questionable/incomplete in the sense that:
> 
> - it adds the POST_ROUTING hook to the raw table and in the IPv4 case 
>   only: but there's no much point to add the hook to IPv6
> - for the sake of completeness the LOCAL_IN hook should be added too, 
>   in order to make possilbe the logging of local SNAT-ed addresses
> - the original src/dst ports could be logged as well: in practice the
>   original src IP address matters only when one wants to hunt down
>   an infected machine on a NATed network

I think that Patrick is not going to like the idea of adding more hooks,
what do you think Patrick?

-- 
"Los honestos son inadaptados sociales" -- Les Luthiers

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-20  9:21 [PATCH] Add support to log original and NAT-ed IP addresses Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-20  9:58 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2009-04-20 10:12   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-20 10:33     ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-20 10:49       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-20 11:08     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2009-04-20 11:23       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-20 14:40         ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-20 16:47           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-21 12:22             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-21 18:18               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-22 15:59                 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-22 20:39                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2009-04-23 12:12                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-24  8:06                       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik

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