From: Shan Wei <shanwei@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] IP: Send a fragment reassembly time exceeded packet when enabling connection track
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:15:31 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4D3AD3.6050403@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B42D1C3.3020207@trash.net>
Patrick McHardy wrote, at 01/05/2010 01:44 PM:
> Shan Wei wrote:
>> Default, a host may send a fragment reassembly time exceeded packet
>> (ICMP Time Exceeded Message with code value of 1) when defraging fragments timeout.
>> But, when enabling connection track, a host can't send the packet.
>>
>> Because, the module of nf_defrag_ipv4 selected by connection track is registered
>> in PRE_ROUTING HOOK and assembles all accepted fragments(here, not begin to routing).
>> After defrag timeout, the host can't send fragment reassembly time exceeded packet,
>> because of lack of router information.
>>
>> RFC 792 says:
>>>>>> If a host reassembling a fragmented datagram cannot complete the
>>>>>> reassembly due to missing fragments within its time limit it
>>>>>> discards the datagram, and it may send a time exceeded message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If fragment zero is not available then no time exceeded need be
>>>>>> sent at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read more: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc792.html#ixzz0aOXRD7Wp
>> So, the patch try to fix it with filling router information before sending fragment reassembly
>> time exceeded packet when defrag timeout.
>
> I guess the question is whether we really want to send an ICMP
> message in this case. The above quote applies to end hosts,
Yes, what you guess is what i want to ask. :-)
Should end hosts which are using conntrack send a fragment reassembly time exceeded message?
> while conntrack is also (probably more commonly) used on routers,
> which normally shouldn't attempt reassembly.
There are two point:
1.Take security into account, end hosts also used conntrack.
For example: When a host is attacked by denial of service TCP flaws, RedHat used the conntrack&recent
match to limit the TCP connections.
About details, see the phenomenon description:
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2008-4609
http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2008-4609
See RedHat's solution:
http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-18730
2.On the latest kernel, a router on which the conntrack is used, reassemble fragments and
forward reassembled intact packet. This implementation is not coincide with what you said.
nf_defrag_ipv4 module is registered on PRE_ROUTING hook with the highest priority. So, search router table
after completing the reassembly and forward it to destination host.
If I miss something, please tell me.
Thanks.
-----
Shan Wei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-13 3:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-23 3:43 [RFC][PATCH] IP: Send a fragment reassembly time exceeded packet when enabling connection track Shan Wei
2010-01-05 5:44 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-13 3:15 ` Shan Wei [this message]
2010-01-13 8:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-14 9:18 ` Shan Wei
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