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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Cc: Netfilter Development Mailinglist <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: netfilter: xtables: add CT target
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:37:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B56CED1.1070109@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1001200941070.8728@blackhole.kfki.hu>

Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
> 
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> 
>> Jozsef Kadlecsik wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>>
>>>> The attached two patches add a 'CT' target to specify parameters
>>>> used during conntrack creation. This can be used to manually attach
>>>> a helper to a connection. A couple of patches I'm still working
>>>> on will additionally use this for the "conntrack zones" classification.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has further ideas of parameters that might
>>>> make sense to support. We could for example move parameters like
>>>> sip_direct_signalling and sip_direct_media into the helper structure
>>>> and allow to set them dynamically for each connection. Or perhaps
>>>> selectively enable netlink events.
>>> Selectively enabling netlink events (not only per connection but per event 
>>> type) would be cool! Last year I used the CONNMARK target for that purpose 
>>> - maybe it fits better to the CT target.
>> I think it would be a good fit since you probably would want to specify
>> the events to be delivered before the conntrack is created.
>>
>> Adding an event mask to the ecache extension also looks unproblematic.
>> You could then use a rule like this:
>>
>> iptables -t raw .. -j CT --ctevents new,related,protoinfo,helper
>>
>> or something like that. Are the existing event types fine grained
>> enough for this?
> 
> The possible events were cut back strongly and now the conntrack state 
> changes ASSURED and SEEN_REPLY cannot be distinguished. In my opinion 
> either SEEN_REPLY should not trigger an event at all or IPCT_ASSURED 
> should be put back.

I think it makes sense to generate an event for SEEN_REPLY since
its a synchronizable event (ctnetlink can also set the SEEN_REPLY
bit). I'm not opposed to add back IPCT_ASSURED, but I'm wondering,
in what case would userspace be interested in only one of both
updates?

>> Also, should the CT target override the global sysctl setting?
> 
> Yes, definitely.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-20  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-19  9:05 RFC: netfilter: xtables: add CT target Patrick McHardy
2010-01-19  9:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-01-19 10:19   ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-19 10:27 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-01-19 10:40   ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-19 12:06     ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-19 16:03       ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-20  9:19     ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-01-20  9:37       ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2010-01-20  9:50         ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-01-20  9:52           ` Patrick McHardy

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