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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: Jorrit Kronjee <j.kronjee@infopact.nl>, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: debugging kernel during packet drops
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:02:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA7B09E.9030306@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.01.1003221849050.2821@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Monday 2010-03-22 18:16, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>> I used brctl to build the bridge. The DoS machine has a custom built
>>> tool that allows me to send small packets at very fast rates. I've
>>> discovered that bridging still works reliably at around 300 kpackets/s
>>> (notice the 'k' in there). However, as said before, I was trying to
>>> limit the amount of packets/s, so I used netfilter's hashlimit module.
>>> This is when packet drops started to appear. 
>>>
>>> At around 300 kpps, the amount of packet drops is 40 kpps. For me, this
>>> amount is too significant to ignore. I see the load average go from a
>>> comfortable 0.00 to 1.78, mainly caused by ksoftirqd processes. At 200
>>> kpps, the average amount of packet drops is 23 kpps. At 100 kpps, it's
>>> still 2 kpps. 
> 
>> A couple of suggestions:
>>
>> - try the limit module in case you don't actually need per-source/dest etc.
>>  limiting but just a global limit
> 
> The token-per-jiffy math logic used in xt_limit and some other
> modules is known to be inaccurate at high speeds.
> 
> My suggestion is therefore to try xt_rateest instead which has
> a somewhat different logic.

Good point, I forgot about xt_rateest :)

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 10:41 debugging kernel during packet drops Jorrit Kronjee
2010-03-22 17:16 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-03-22 17:53   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-22 18:02     ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2010-03-23 15:14   ` Jorrit Kronjee
2010-03-23 15:39     ` Patrick McHardy
2010-03-23 17:21     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-23 20:07       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-24 15:20       ` Jorrit Kronjee
2010-03-24 16:21         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-24 16:28           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-24 17:04             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-24 17:25               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-25  9:32           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-25 10:35             ` Patrick McHardy
2010-03-25 11:02               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-31 12:23                 ` [PATCH nf-next-2.6] xt_hashlimit: RCU conversion Eric Dumazet
2010-04-01 11:03                   ` Patrick McHardy
2010-04-01 12:10                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-01 12:36                       ` Patrick McHardy
2010-03-25 12:42               ` debugging kernel during packet drops Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-30 12:06               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-30 14:12                 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-03-26 10:41             ` Jorrit Kronjee
2010-03-26 11:21               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-26 14:17               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-03-26 15:54                 ` Jorrit Kronjee
2010-03-23 17:04 ` James King
2010-03-23 17:23   ` Eric Dumazet

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