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From: Bas van Sisseren <bas@quarantainenet.nl>
To: Pascal Hambourg <pascal.mail@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipt_REDIRECT: only change dest-ip if not local ip
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:21:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C407912.7050500@quarantainenet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4074FF.8080308@plouf.fr.eu.org>

On 16/07/10 17:04, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Bas van Sisseren a écrit :
>>
>> On 16/07/10 14:42, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>
>>> 2) I wonder whether it is really useful. The purpose of REDIRECT is to
>>> make sure a packet is redirected to the local machine itself without the
>>> need to care about the machine's address (just as MASQUERADE). If you
>>> don't want to change the destination address or need finer control over
>>> it, I believe DNAT can be used instead. Can you provide a use case ?
>>
>> It's a honeypot system with advanced routing and a lot of ip-addresses. The
>> honeypot is running as non-root, which complicates usage of ports < 1024.
>> The REDIRECT rule helps us to redirect the connection to higher
>> port-numbers. With REDIRECT, we can request the original dst ip:port with
>> the SO_ORIG_DST sockopt. With DNAT the SO_ORIG_DST is not available.
> 
> Do you mean SO_ORIGINAL_DST ? I'm surprised it does not work with DNAT.
> AFAICS, it uses data from the connection tracking, and it does not
> matter how the NAT mapping was created.

Yes, that's the one. I have to admit I did these experiments before the
netfilter module shuffle (somewhere around the 2.6.18 kernel). I'll have
another look at it.


>>> 3) Why restrict only to the addresses attached to the receiving
>>> interface ? Why not extend to any address attached to a host's
>>> interface, or even any local address (such as the whole 127.0.0.0/8
>>> prefix) ?
>>
>> I don't see any use for that. :-)
> 
> Well, I think it would be more consistent with the Linux "weak" host
> model (all local addresses belong globally to the host instead of a
> single interface) ; we want to redirect a packet to the local host, so
> if the original destination address is already a local address, we don't
> need to change it.

Ah, you've got a point there.


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      reply	other threads:[~2010-07-16 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-16 10:00 [PATCH] ipt_REDIRECT: only change dest-ip if not local ip Bas van Sisseren
2010-07-16 12:21 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-07-16 12:42   ` Bas van Sisseren
2010-07-16 12:49     ` Patrick McHardy
2010-07-16 14:56       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-16 14:58         ` Patrick McHardy
2010-07-16 15:14         ` Bas van Sisseren
2010-07-16 19:18           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-19  8:02             ` Bas van Sisseren
2010-07-16 13:03     ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-16 12:42 ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-16 13:23   ` Bas van Sisseren
2010-07-16 15:04     ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-16 15:21       ` Bas van Sisseren [this message]

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