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From: Pascal Hambourg <pascal.mail@plouf.fr.eu.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rules matching ipv6 prefix addrs
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:55:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD29F24.70804@plouf.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CD21679.2070508@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin a écrit :
> On 11/03/2010 06:52 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> I take it you mean a setup where addresses are automatically assigned
>> (DHCPv6, PPP).

6to4 with the prefix based on a variable IPv4 address, fail-over setup
using links with different prefixes...

> DHCPv6, PPP, RA, anything.

AFAIK PPP only assigns the IPv6 link local addresses so it is not an
issue, and the global prefix must be configured by other means such as
DHCPv6.

> Keep in mind that "expect prefix changes" is 
> a deliberate part of the IPv6 systems design.

I have been using IPv6 for a few years now, and was not aware this was a
design feature. I know two ISPs here that provide IPv6, both assign a
fixed prefix. Also AFAIK IPv6 tunnel brokers assign fixed prefixes. In
my mind, "dynamic" does not necessarily mean "variable".

> Consider for example the case where I get from my ISP the netblock 
> 2001:0db8:ac10::/48.  I subnet this internally with subnet numbers 
> prefixed by /52 security domains, i.e 2001:0db8:ac10:0000::/52, 
> 2001:0db8:ac10:1000::/52 and so forth.

/52 is quite unusual. AFAIK stateless autoconfiguration requires a
prefix length of /64.

> Accordingly, my ip6tables would 
> contain rules as to what kind of traffic can flow between these prefixes.
>
> Now, the upstream (ISP-assigned) prefix changes to 2001:6b2f:1705::/48. 
> RA will handle reassigning addresses to actual downstream hosts, but 
> things that explicitly encode IPv6 addresses need to be changed, and 
> that includes ip6tables, in this case these rules now need to refer to 
> 2001:6b2f:1705:0000::/52, 2001:62bf:1705:1000::/52 and so on.

Are you talking about rules on the router which subnets the block, or on
downstream hosts ?
Also, is each subnet prefix on a separate link ?
Could you provide an example of such rules ?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-04 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-02 20:52 rules matching ipv6 prefix addrs David Miller
2010-11-02 21:24 ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2010-11-03  7:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-11-03  9:29 ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-03 10:51   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-03 12:19   ` David Miller
2010-11-03 12:32     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-03 21:55       ` David Miller
2010-11-03 22:36         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-03 22:52           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-04  2:12             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04  4:14               ` Patrick McHardy
2010-11-04  8:58               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-04 11:36                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 11:53                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-04 14:41                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 20:02                       ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-04 12:07                   ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-04 11:08               ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-04 11:29                 ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-04 12:07                   ` Stephen Clark
2010-11-04 12:19                     ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-04 13:34                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-04 14:41                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 17:35                   ` Jeff Haran
2010-11-04 18:45                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 19:24                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-04 19:26                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 11:55               ` Pascal Hambourg [this message]
2010-11-04 14:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-11-04 20:00                   ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-11-03 12:56     ` Pascal Hambourg

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