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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@diku.dk>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
	Netfilter Developer Mailing List
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netfilter@vger.kernel.org, tgraf@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:02:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D0B3541.2090501@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D0A9F54.8080602@trash.net>

On 17/12/10 00:23, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Am 16.12.2010 13:51, schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
>> On Thursday 2010-12-16 10:57, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>
>>> Cc.ed Thomas Graf (tgraf@redhat.com), Thomas presented some interesting 
>>> ideas on netlink error-codes and strings during NetConf 2010, see:
>>>
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2010.html 
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2010_slides/tgraf_netconf10.odp
>>
>> The idea is appending an error string is ok for Netlink as a protocol
>> (specification-wise), but the size constraints of the skbuffs in the
>> Linux may make its practical implementation a little harder. "Half of
>> the packet" is already used for the original request message, and
>> cramming an extra error string may bust the space.
>> It also does not look very netlinky to not use nlattrs ;-)
> 
> I agree, error strings don't look like a viable solution to me,
> they are basically impossible to interpret by an application,
> you run into localization issues and so on.
> 
> I'd suggest to return an errno value and the attribute causing
> the error, possibly also the value (we append the original message
> anyways, but in case of lists it might be hard to locate the specific
> attribute). The harder cases are when a combination of multiple
> attributes are responsible for the error, but still, the application
> has to understand the kernel interpretation anyways, so I'd simply
> return the errno and all attributes responsible. Leave interpretation
> up to userspace.

I'd also prefer an int. We can define the meaning of the error numbers
in the protocol header file.

      reply	other threads:[~2010-12-17 10:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-24 22:29 Xtables2 Netlink spec Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 11:42 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 13:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 14:21     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 21:46       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26  8:25         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 13:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 19:48             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 19:55               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 20:05                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 21:33                   ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011270951330.20431@blackhole.kfki.hu>
2010-11-27 13:39                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 17:04                         ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-27 17:35                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 20:42                             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:30                               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:39                                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:55                                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 13:26                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-29 13:49                                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:23                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-27 11:10             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 15:27           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 12:25             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-03 21:03           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-07  7:49             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-07 13:30               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-08 11:36                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 19:01 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-09 12:08   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-14  2:01     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-14  2:16       ` James Nurmi
2010-12-14  3:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15 13:54       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:05         ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 14:22           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  7:25             ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17  9:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  9:50                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17  9:55           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17 14:56             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15  4:55   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15  8:51     ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16  9:57       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2010-12-16 12:51         ` Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec) Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 13:43           ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 13:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 14:19               ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17 10:00                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:47             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16 15:09               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 23:31             ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17  6:58               ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 23:23           ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17 10:02             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]

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