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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Netfilter Development Mailinglist
	<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: remove "no conntrack!"
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:30:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2F28B9.50407@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294929579.3570.163.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On 13/01/11 15:39, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 15:02 +0100, Jan Engelhardt a écrit :
>> On Thursday 2011-01-13 14:38, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>
>>> Le jeudi 13 janvier 2011 à 12:54 +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso a écrit :
>>>
>>>> But printing this does not provide any useful information. The first
>>>> packet that does not belong to the cluster node that has received the
>>>> packet, or the first invalid packet, will trigger this.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, this confuses users since they can do nothing if they receive
>>>> this message.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, this target should be supersedes by the cluster match, which
>>>> has been there for quite some time (it's also more flexible).
>>>
>>> Now you mentioned it, cluster match is not as flexible right now,
>>> its hashing is on source_ip only.
>>
>> I think in that case, xt_cluster should be improved rather
>> than an old module.
> 
> Amen
> 
> We should not improve IPv4 support then, I see.
> 
> My customers use this old module, and upgrading to xt_cluster is not an
> option.
> 
> Should we discuss this forever or fix it ?

hey hey, I'm fine with fixing things. Patch v4 is OK.

Acked-by: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>

> In the end, people are forced to add useless iptables rule to DROP
> INVALID packets before entering ipt_CLUSTERIP, after googling or
> eventually asking to experts.
> 
> Last time this was discussed, this went nowhere :
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/netfilter/msg48676.html
> 
> Come on guys, we can do it, dont be afraid.
> 
> A non rate limited printk() in kernel is forbidden, especially in
> network stack.
> 
> Then, cluster match can be improved, I am sure you already have a patch
> for it.

what scenario could benefit from the destination-based hashing?
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-13 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-12 21:17 netfilter tree for 2.6.38 is open Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 11:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: dont flood with "no conntrack!" Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:23   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 11:28     ` Patrick McHardy
2011-01-13 11:29       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 11:36       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:32     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 11:54       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 13:38         ` [PATCH v4] netfilter: ipt_CLUSTERIP: remove " Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 14:02           ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-01-13 14:39             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-13 16:30               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2011-01-13 16:35                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-01-13 16:48                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-01-18 15:28                 ` Patrick McHardy

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