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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] rework of userspace expectation support
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:02:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DA6014F.10707@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DA59700.9000400@trash.net>

On 13/04/11 14:28, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Am 13.04.2011 14:11, schrieb Pablo Neira Ayuso:
>> On 13/04/11 13:55, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>> Am 13.04.2011 13:47, schrieb Pablo Neira Ayuso:
>>>> On 13/04/11 13:37, Patrick McHardy wrote:
>>>>> Am 12.04.2011 23:59, schrieb Pablo Neira Ayuso:
>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following patches rework the userspace expectation support
>>>>>> to fix one problematic scenario: if the master conntrack vanishes
>>>>>> while there are still userspace expectations, we hit an oops
>>>>>> in the destroy event path for expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering, how can this happen? We take a reference for
>>>>> userspace expectations just as we do for kernel expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I see, we are releasing it again at the end of
>>>>> ctnetlink_create_expect(), that seems to be the actual problem
>>>>> if I'm not mistaken.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, we have keep that reference, that would fix the problem.
>>>
>>> We definitely need to hold it anyways since destroy_conntrack()
>>> releases it again.
>>>
>>>> Still, with the curent approach the userspace expectation will be valid
>>>> after the master conntrack has expired.
>>>>
>>>> So we can do the following: Fix this refcount issue in -stable and
>>>> current, and schedule these patches for nf-next to change the behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> I don't know, what's the difference to non-userspace expectations?
>>> The same applies to them, we don't require the master to still be
>>> active for expectations.
>>
>> kernelspace expectations are released if the master is destroyed.
>> userspace expectations will not.
> 
> I see, you're talking about unfulfilled expectations. Still, we're
> releasing expectations in destroy_conntrack(), if we fix the refcount
> issue, the master conntrack will not be destroyed while userspace
> expectations exist.

Exactly.

>> The helper extension is used to store a list of expectations for this
>> master conntrack, so we can release the expectations that are
>> associated. This is not true for userspace expectations, since the
>> master has no list with expectations.
> 
> This raises the question - why are we treating userspace differently
> in this regard?

I think we should treat them link the kernelspace expectations.

I'll send a patch to fix this issue, and then tell me if you're OK with
this approach so that we can apply it to nf-next.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-13 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-12 21:59 [PATCH 0/2] rework of userspace expectation support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-12 21:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] netfilter: CT: allow to set userspace helper status flag Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-12 21:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] netfilter: nf_ct_expect: rework userspace expectation support Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-13 11:37 ` [PATCH 0/2] rework of " Patrick McHardy
2011-04-13 11:47   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-13 11:55     ` Patrick McHardy
2011-04-13 12:11       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-13 12:28         ` Patrick McHardy
2011-04-13 20:02           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2011-04-20 12:10           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-04-20 14:06             ` Patrick McHardy
2011-04-21 13:14               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2011-05-17 21:12                 ` Sam Roberts
2011-06-13 21:57                   ` Sam Roberts

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