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From: Mr Dash Four <mr.dash.four@googlemail.com>
To: Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Cc: Netfilter Core Team <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] ipset: change 'iface' part in hash:net,iface set
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:54:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5002AF68.9070204@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1207141816580.1593@blackhole.kfki.hu>

  

>> There is a flip side to that particular coin - I could argue that since 
>> in/out *is* allowed to be used in hash:net,iface, why can't it be used 
>> in list:set where I could have hash:net,iface type sets accepted as 
>> members? You are imposing an unnecessary restriction where none is 
>> needed.
>>     
>
> Both a. and b. must satisfy that the result must not depend on the syntax. 
> If "in/out" is allowed in a rule then replacing by "src/dst" the result of 
> the iptables rule must remain the same. Whatever sets are in a list:set.
>   
I fail to see how your answer addresses my point above, which I raised 
in response to the restriction imposed by "solution a." of not allowing 
in/out in a list:set where there could be hash:net,iface members 
registered.

You know very well that by allowing in/out alongside src/dst in a 
list:set this *will* produce the same members match - that was your 
previous objection for not allowing in/out to be used alongside src/dst 
in list:set, until I found you this solution and then you swiftly moved 
the goalposts, again!

> I don't favour b. Ugly like hell, a. were much cleaner.
>   
You couldn't make this up! I mean, really Jozsef?

In a couple of hours yesterday, you went from:

"Solution b. is also acceptable but it's more controversial", then

"Therefore I'm not really happy with solution b. but I can stomach it", 
and finally, the above answer, not to mention that you started all of 
this with you being "unhappy" with users being "forced" to use src/dst 
only on list:set types.

In other words - you have gone full circle - twice - in a space of just 
a couple of days. I see that "debating" with you is becoming a bit of a 
pointless exercise.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-15 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-09 22:23 [PATCH v2 0/3] iptables: change 'iface' part in hash:net,iface set Mr Dash Four
2012-07-09 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Mr Dash Four
2012-07-10 15:54   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-10 23:41     ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-12  7:11       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-13  0:41         ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-13  8:11           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-13 13:56             ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-09 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] ipset: " Mr Dash Four
2012-07-10 15:35   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-09 22:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] " Mr Dash Four
2012-07-10 15:32   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-10 23:41     ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-11 20:25       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-13  0:42         ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-13  8:02           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-13 13:57             ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-13 14:16               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-13 14:22                 ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-14  8:45                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-14 12:35                     ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-14 16:37                       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-15 11:54                         ` Mr Dash Four [this message]
2012-07-15 15:02                           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-15 16:32                             ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-15 19:21                               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-15 19:39                                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-15 22:14                                 ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-16  8:03                                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-16 12:39                                     ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-16 13:58                                       ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-17 23:29                                         ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-18 12:54                                           ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2012-07-19 22:52                                             ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-19 22:52                                           ` Mr Dash Four
2012-07-15 22:48                                 ` Mr Dash Four

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