From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Gao feng Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/11] Add namespace support for syslog Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:37:35 +0800 Message-ID: <5202F65F.40002@cn.fujitsu.com> References: <1375861035-24320-1-git-send-email-rui.xiang@huawei.com> <878v0evssv.fsf@xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org, serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org, linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, libo.chen-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org, netfilter-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, guz.fnst-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org, akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org To: "Eric W. Biederman" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <878v0evssv.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: containers-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org Errors-To: containers-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org List-Id: netfilter-devel.vger.kernel.org On 08/07/2013 03:55 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Since this still has not been addressed. I am going to repeat Andrews > objection again. > > Isn't there a better way to get iptables information out than to use > syslog. I did not have time to follow up on that but it did appear that > someone did have a better way to get the information out. > > Essentially the argument against this goes. The kernel logging facility > is really not a particularly good tool to be using for anything other > than kernel debugging information, and there appear to be no substantial > uses for a separate syslog that should not be done in other ways. containerizing syslog is not only for iptables, it also isolates the /dev/kmsg, /proc/kmsg, syslog(2)... user space tools in container may use this interface to read/generate syslog. But I don't know how important/urgent this containerizing syslog work is, Rui Xiang, can you find an important/popular user space tool which uses this interfaces to generate kernel syslog? Thanks Gao