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From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arturo Borrero Gonzalez <arturo.borrero.glez@gmail.com>,
	Eric Leblond <eric@regit.org>
Subject: Re: nft parser and names for constants (was [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect")
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 07:38:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552761E9.7000701@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409191530.GA7548@acer.localdomain>

Am 09.04.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Patrick McHardy:
> On 09.04, Alexander Holler wrote:
>> Am 09.04.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Patrick McHardy:
>>>> 3. I don't see why admins have to use another set of names for constants
>>>> than developers. Inventing a new set of names for a list of constants for
>>>> which there already exist a very widely used set of names just leads to more
>>>> confusion. And if it's ok to invent new names, why does nft use
>>>> "param-problem" and not "parameter-problem"? Of course, I would suggest to
>>>> use the existing name icmp_parameterprob (like it's used in every
>>>> c/c++-source).
>>>
>>> In case of ICMP we use the same names that iptables used, so this actually
>>> spares admins from getting used to new constants. We're not going to use
>>> source code identifiers, there's no benefit at all, especially if you
>>> consider that Linux headers use different identifiers than the BSD headers.
>>
>> nft isn't in use on BSD and if you think taking BSD out of a corner makes
>> sense, I wonder how compatible the names, nft uses, are, with what is used
>> by ipf or one of the other BSD firewall packages. As the answer is the names
>> are incompatible, arguing with BSD is nonsense here.
>
> This is starting to annoy me. If you suggest to use names from headers, at
> least do your homework. The BSD headers is what most of userspace uses, and
> this is where ICMP_PARAMPROB originates. Linux uses ICMP_PARAMETERPROB.

I aggree that this discussion, which never really has begun, finally 
ended in the mud. Feel free to throw out more accusations as I won't try 
to discuss with you anymore.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-01  7:58 nft parser and problems with icmp type names (redirect and param-problem) Alexander Holler
2015-04-01 13:15 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-03 17:50   ` [PATCH] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect" Alexander Holler
2015-04-03 18:06     ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 10:50       ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 11:13         ` [PATCH v2] " Alexander Holler
2015-04-04 11:55           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-04 12:30             ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-05 11:42               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 11:32             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 12:11               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-05 19:07                 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  1:51                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-06  8:44                     ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  9:01                       ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06  9:14                         ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-06 11:25                           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-06 20:41                             ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-09 10:52                             ` nft parser and names for constants (was [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect") Alexander Holler
2015-04-09 11:07                               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-09 17:50                                 ` Alexander Holler
2015-04-09 19:15                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-10  5:38                                     ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2015-04-06  7:12                 ` [PATCH v2] parser: add kludges for "param-problem" and "redirect" Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2015-04-06 11:23                   ` Patrick McHardy

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