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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 03:04:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55417F80.4000506@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150430003740.GF7025@acer.localdomain>

On 04/30/2015 02:37 AM, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> On 30.04, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
>> On the bugfix front, the illegal mangling of shared skb from actions
>> like stateless nat and bpf look also important to be addressed to me.
>> David already suggested to propagate some state object that keeps a
>> pointer to the skb that is passed to the action. Thus, the action can
>> clone it and get the skb back to the ingress path. I started a
>> patchset to do so here, it's a bit large since it requires quite a lot
>> of function signature adjustment.
>
> Jumping in on this point - the fact that roughly 2/3 of TC actions will
> simply BUG under not unlikely circumstances when used in ingress (I went
> through them one by one with Pablo a week ago) is also telling. Nobody
> seems to be using that. All packet mangling actions will BUG while any
> tap is active. Its nothing easily fixed, but apparently nobody has cared
> in ten years. ipt is trivial to crash differently, connmark is as well.
>
> So I'm wondering what are we actually arguing about here. Whether we are
> affecting the performance how fast TC will crash? We *do* actually care
> about these thing, in TC apparently nobody has for the past ten years.

Totally agree with you that the situation is quite a mess. From tc ingress/
egress side, at least my use case is to have an as minimal as possible entry
point for cls_bpf/act_bpf, which is what we were working on recently. That
is rather ``fresh'' compared to the remaining history of cls/act in tc.

Cheers,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-29 18:53 [PATCH 0/6 RFC] Netfilter ingress support (v2) Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/6] netfilter: cleanup struct nf_hook_ops indentation Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/6] netfilter: add hook list to nf_hook_state Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 3/6] netfilter: add nf_hook_list_active() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 4/6] netfilter: move generic hook infrastructure into net/core/hooks.c Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 23:59   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: add netfilter ingress hook Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 20:27   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-29 23:32     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30  0:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:20       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:30         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:41           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:48             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:16               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  1:34                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:22                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:11                     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30 11:55                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 15:33                         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 16:09                           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 16:36                             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:16                               ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 23:01                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-01  1:15                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 10:12                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:05                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  0:37       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:04         ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2015-04-30  1:43           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:35             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:29               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  4:05                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  6:02                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  9:24                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 10:28                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 23:36     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:00       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:15         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 21:53   ` Cong Wang
2015-04-29 23:37     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 23:42     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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