From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [nf-next PATCH v2] netfilter: nf_tables: Introduce NFTA_RULE_ACTUAL_EXPR
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 22:00:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y97HaXaEtIlFUQSJ@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y94oUYqArYqhkmOX@salvia>
On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 10:41:37AM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2023 at 05:21:29PM +0100, Phil Sutter wrote:
> [...]
> > On Fri, Feb 03, 2023 at 04:32:01PM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> [...]
> > > I also wonder if this might cause problems with nftables and implicit
> > > sets, they are bound to one single lookup expression that, when gone,
> > > the set is released. Now you will have two expressions pointing to an
> > > implicit set. Same thing with implicit chains. This might get tricky
> > > with the transaction interface.
> >
> > While indeed two lookup expressions will refer to the same anonymous
> > set, only one of those expressions will ever be in use. There's no way
> > the kernel would switch between rule variants (or use both at the same
> > time).
>
> OK, but control plane will reject two lookup expressions that refer to
> the same anonymous set.
Only if it sees the second expression: If NFTA_RULE_ACTUAL_EXPR is
present, the kernel will copy the content of NFTA_RULE_EXPRESSIONS into
a buffer pointed to by nft_rule::dump_expr. It does not inspect the
content apart from nla_policy checking which merely ensures it's a
nested array of elements conforming to nft_expr_policy (i.e., have a
NAME and DATA attribute).
The copied data is touched only by nf_tables_fill_rule_info() which
copies it as-is into the skb. Later, nf_tables_rule_destroy() just frees
the whole blob.
So effectively the kernel doesn't know or care what expressions are
contained in NFTA_RULE_EXPRESSIONS.
> > > iptables is rather simple representation (no sets), but nftables is
> > > more expressive.
> >
> > That's not true, at least ebtables' among match is implemented using
> > sets. :)
>
> Then better have a look at this implicit set scenario I describe above
> because I cannot see how this can work.
Sure, I'll give it a try.
Cheers, Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-04 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-21 14:22 [nf-next PATCH v2] netfilter: nf_tables: Introduce NFTA_RULE_ACTUAL_EXPR Phil Sutter
2023-01-12 10:15 ` Phil Sutter
2023-01-12 11:06 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-01-12 12:02 ` Phil Sutter
2023-01-18 11:58 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-01-18 13:48 ` Phil Sutter
2023-02-02 21:31 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-03 13:48 ` Phil Sutter
2023-02-03 15:32 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-03 16:21 ` Phil Sutter
2023-02-04 9:41 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-04 21:00 ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2023-02-06 9:52 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-07 10:43 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-07 10:56 ` Phil Sutter
2023-02-16 10:55 ` Phil Sutter
2023-02-16 11:29 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-02-16 12:05 ` Phil Sutter
2023-04-26 19:58 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-27 10:57 ` Phil Sutter
2023-04-27 11:01 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-27 11:33 ` Phil Sutter
2023-04-27 13:07 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-27 22:45 ` Phil Sutter
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