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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: kuba@kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/5] netfilter: nf_tables: add position handle in event notification
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:49:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVXAeheN9xpOWXWU@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210930.133522.917842602540469933.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 01:35:22PM +0100, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 19:19:53 -0700
> 
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 01:04:57 +0200 Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> >> Add position handle to allow to identify the rule location from netlink
> >> events. Otherwise, userspace cannot incrementally update a userspace
> >> cache through monitoring events.
> >> 
> >> Skip handle dump if the rule has been either inserted (at the beginning
> >> of the ruleset) or appended (at the end of the ruleset), the
> >> NLM_F_APPEND netlink flag is sufficient in these two cases.
> >> 
> >> Handle NLM_F_REPLACE as NLM_F_APPEND since the rule replacement
> >> expansion appends it after the specified rule handle.
> >> 
> >> Fixes: 96518518cc41 ("netfilter: add nftables")
> >> Signed-off-by: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
> > 
> > Let me defer to Dave on this one. Krzysztof K recently provided us with
> > this quote:
> > 
> > "One thing that does bother [Linus] is developers who send him fixes in the
> > -rc2 or -rc3 time frame for things that never worked in the first place.
> > If something never worked, then the fact that it doesn't work now is not
> > a regression, so the fixes should just wait for the next merge window.
> > Those fixes are, after all, essentially development work."
> > 
> > 	https://lwn.net/Articles/705245/
> > 
> > Maybe the thinking has evolved since, but this patch strikes me as odd.
> > We forgot to put an attribute in netlink 8 years ago, and suddenly it's
> > urgent to fill it in?  Something does not connect for me, certainly the
> > commit message should have explained things better...
> 
> Agreed.

The aforementioned article says:

"In general, he said, if a fix applies to a feature that is not
currently being used, it should wait for the next development cycle"

This feature is being used by 'nft monitor', which is not
representing:

- insert rule
- add/insert rule with position handle
- create table/chain/set/map

commands in the correct way via netlink notifications.

I can rework the commit message to clarify this and resubmit.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-30 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-29 23:04 [PATCH net 0/5] Netfilter fixes for net Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-29 23:04 ` [PATCH net 1/5] netfilter: conntrack: fix boot failure with nf_conntrack.enable_hooks=1 Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-29 23:04 ` [PATCH net 2/5] netfilter: nf_tables: add position handle in event notification Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-30  2:19   ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-09-30  7:28     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-30 12:35     ` David Miller
2021-09-30 13:49       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2021-09-29 23:04 ` [PATCH net 3/5] netfilter: nf_tables: reverse order in rule replacement expansion Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-29 23:04 ` [PATCH net 4/5] netfilter: nft_dynset: relax superfluous check on set updates Pablo Neira Ayuso
2021-09-29 23:05 ` [PATCH net 5/5] netfilter: nf_tables: honor NLM_F_CREATE and NLM_F_EXCL in event notification Pablo Neira Ayuso

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