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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Jeremy Sowden <jeremy@azazel.net>,
	Netfilter Devel <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nftables 8/8] test: py: add tests for shifted nat port-ranges
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 12:53:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDU8GcaowpCbIeDJ@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230411102532.GC21051@breakpoint.cc>

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:25:32PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 11:59:04PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > > Jeremy Sowden <jeremy@azazel.net> wrote:
> > > > +ip daddr 10.0.0.1 tcp dport 55900-55910 dnat ip to 192.168.127.1:5900-5910/55900;ok
> > > > +ip6 daddr 10::1 tcp dport 55900-55910 dnat ip6 to [::c0:a8:7f:1]:5900-5910/55900;ok
> > > 
> > > This syntax is horrible (yes, I know, xtables fault).
> > > 
> > > Do you think this series could be changed to grab the offset register from the
> > > left edge of the range rather than requiring the user to specify it a
> > > second time?  Something like:
> > > 
> > > ip daddr 10.0.0.1 tcp dport 55900-55910 dnat ip to 192.168.127.1:5900-5910
> > > 
> > > I'm open to other suggestions of course.
> > 
> > To allow to mix this with maps, I think the best approach is to add a
> > new flag (port-shift) and then allow the user to specify the
> > port-shift 'delta'.
> > 
> > ip daddr 10.0.0.1 tcp dport 55900-55910 dnat ip to ip saddr map { \
> >         192.168.127.0-129.168.127.128 : 1.2.3.4 . -55000 } port-shift
> 
> Sorry, I don't see the usecase for different deltas.

Then, users will more than one single rule for different port-shift
mappings?

> But even if we assume that, kernel already takes the dnat target port
> number from a register.

In my proposal, kernel would take the delta from register, the flag
tells the nat core how to interpret this.

> > where -55000 means, subtract -55000 to the tcp dport in the packet, it
> > is an incremental update.
> > 
> > This requires a kernel patch to add the new port-shift flag.
> 
> ... so I don't see why we need a new port-shift flag at all.
> I think best approach is to provide the actual new dport in a register,
> like we already do right now.
>
> So we need an 'add' operation in kernel to compute

This is an 'add' operation built-in into the NAT engine.

How would a generic 'add' operation in the kernel will work with
concatenations?

> portreg = sreg_with_port + sreg_with_offset
> > 
> > Florian, this is based on your idea to support 'add' command, which is
> > still needed for other usecases. I think nat is special in the sense
> > that the goal is to feed the registers that instruct the NAT engine
> > what kind of mangling is needed.
> 
> See above.  I don't think we should go with the existing NAT flag,
> its very much a hack to overcome iptables design limitations.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-11 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-05 10:14 [PATCH nftables 0/8] Support for shifted port-ranges in NAT Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 1/8] nat: add support for shifted port-ranges Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 2/8] masq: " Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 3/8] redir: " Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 4/8] json: formatting fixes Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 5/8] json: add support for shifted nat port-ranges Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 6/8] doc: correct NAT statement description Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 7/8] doc: add shifted port-ranges to nat statements Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-05 10:14 ` [PATCH nftables 8/8] test: py: add tests for shifted nat port-ranges Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-24 22:59   ` Florian Westphal
2023-03-25 10:35     ` Phil Sutter
2023-03-25 11:10       ` Jeremy Sowden
2023-03-26 20:41         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-03-26 20:39     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-03-27 11:08       ` Jeremy Sowden
2023-04-11 12:21       ` Jeremy Sowden
2023-04-12 11:06         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-25 19:51           ` Jeremy Sowden
2023-05-03 20:54             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-05-08 17:58               ` Jeremy Sowden
2023-05-08 19:47                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-11  8:28     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-11 10:25       ` Florian Westphal
2023-04-11 10:53         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2023-04-11 11:20           ` Florian Westphal
2023-04-11 11:43             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-11 12:28               ` Florian Westphal
2023-04-11 12:36       ` Florian Westphal
2023-04-12 11:22         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-04-12 11:43           ` Florian Westphal
2023-04-12 12:54             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-03-24 14:18 ` [PATCH nftables 0/8] Support for shifted port-ranges in NAT Florian Westphal
2023-03-24 16:07   ` Jeremy Sowden

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