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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: update element timeout support [was Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit]
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 10:30:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZR0iicz5dwog2rqw@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231003182447.GB446@breakpoint.cc>

On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:24:47PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > > Right, I think that will work.
> > > For rbtree, sync gc is kept in place, elements are not zapped,
> > > they get tagged as DEAD, including the end element.
> > > 
> > > Then from commit, do full scan and remove any and all elements
> > > that are flagged as DEAD or have expired.
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> > Would you follow this approach to fix the existing issue with the
> > rbtree on-demand GC in nf.git?
> 
> Actually, I don't see why its needed. With your proposal
> to make the "is_expired" check during transaction consistently based on
> a fixed tstamp, expiry during transaction becomes impossible.
> So we can keep immediate rb_erase around.

Makes sense.

> I suggest to take my proposal to erase, signal -EAGAIN to caller,
> then have caller retry.  Apply this to nf.git as a bug fix.
> 
> Then, I can take my patches that are mixed into the gc rework;
> split those up, and we take the "no more async rbtree gc" for nf-next.
> 
> Do you still spot a problem if we retain the on-insert node erase?

Apart from this unbound loop, which sooner or later will not hit
EAGAIN, no.

> To give some numbers (async gc disabled):
> 
> Insert 20k ranges into rbtree (takes ~4minutes).
> Wait until all have expired.
> Insert a single range: takes 250ms (entire tree has to be purged).
> 
> Don't think it will be any faster with dead-bit approach,
> we simply move cost to later in the transaction.
>
> The only nf.git "advantage" is that we typically won't have
> to zap the entire tree during transaction, but thats due to
> async gc and I'd rather remove it.
> 
> What do you think?

I am fine with this approach.

What it comes, will be redo in nf-next.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-29 16:44 [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 16:44 ` [PATCH nf 2/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: remove async GC Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-29 22:25 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-09-30  8:10   ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-01 20:10     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-01 21:08       ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02  8:20         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02  8:47           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 10:24             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 12:42         ` update element timeout support [was Re: [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit] Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 13:58           ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 14:21             ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  8:22               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03  9:04                 ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-03  9:42                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-03 18:24                     ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-04  8:30                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2023-10-02 21:10             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:14               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 14:23 ` [PATCH nf 1/2] netfilter: nft_set_rbtree: move sync GC from insert path to set->ops->commit Florian Westphal
2023-10-02 21:37   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-02 21:42   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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