From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: let nftables indicate incomplete dissections
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:02:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZmmcbldzDBlnFhzL@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240612075013.GA13354@breakpoint.cc>
Hi!
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 09:50:13AM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> "nft list ruleset" currently omits things it does not understand
> and that it cannot represent in any other way.
>
> This includes:
> 1. expression is unknown
> 2. expression is known (e.g. "cmp"), but attr contains unexpected value
> 3. expression is known but there is an unknown netlink attr contained in
> the dump
>
> If backend (libnftl) could mark expressions as incomplete (from .parse
> callbacks?), it would be then possible for the frontend (nft) to document
> this, e.g. by adding something like "# unknown attributes", or similar.
>
> This is mainly needed for container environments, where host environment
> might be using a lot older version than what is used by a specific
> container image.
ACK, we'll certainly end up in a similar situation as with iptables-nft
so doing nothing is not an option.
> Related problem: entity that is using the raw netlink interface, it
> that case libnftnl might be able to parse everything but nft could
> lack the ability to properly print this.
>
> If noone has any objections, I would place this on my todo list and
> start with adding to libnftnl the needed "expression is incomplete"
> marking by extending the .parse callbacks.
The JSON interface prefixes dumps by a metainfo object which holds nft
version number and a schema version (still "1"). Introducing a similar
"bytecode versioning" cached in and dumped by kernel space might be a
quick way to enable a current nft tool to detect a bytecode from the
future, assuming that we'll also take care and increment that version
when things change.
OTOH, considering compatibility (or testing for it somehow) of a given
bytecode change may be much more tedious than a practical approach of
trying to parse and using a defined exit when failing.
Cheers, Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-12 13:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-12 7:50 let nftables indicate incomplete dissections Florian Westphal
2024-06-12 13:02 ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2024-06-18 8:11 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-06-18 9:31 ` Florian Westphal
2024-06-24 18:14 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-06-24 21:24 ` Florian Westphal
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