From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.netfilter.org (mail.netfilter.org [217.70.190.124]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6291A3A640F for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2026 12:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.190.124 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1774008562; cv=none; b=M0bh7y1qUGCbNERmf/QOex4wf8rQ4uEBLpgTPveudSCZRu5xxqkpg/9aQp8+UhI5q3y2p4yZyNn6efneu8cIx545P/L3mk+SfEM9a0yj0/JcWqactpSXrhgqvjoFHePHyHlT1yE9UPEjl/mT3vbxMEJJFLXYeCo7/yVunVJTzAQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1774008562; c=relaxed/simple; bh=ELy52UnyNSf992OmFEK7letQ3JtxfHhsFHRZNtZUcG8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=so45kyd+TXpbTMQuCDYyMQT6++isPGRm4OSETEK2K3icmF17uT+A5t6IyThkvyYGNumYPC6Q5bRrGBccwB0gKHroG3yLzoBhhg2yE7wiP+IonVsWHVVj44qeGM83cb3HVdJBD7f3aiHXg1RS8t1lvPxx1TAaG2zuk8JCSbRPZLc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=netfilter.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=netfilter.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=netfilter.org header.i=@netfilter.org header.b=OwiOajOK; arc=none smtp.client-ip=217.70.190.124 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=netfilter.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=netfilter.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=netfilter.org header.i=@netfilter.org header.b="OwiOajOK" Received: from netfilter.org (mail-agni [217.70.190.124]) by mail.netfilter.org (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPSA id 78D7D60178; Fri, 20 Mar 2026 13:09:19 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfilter.org; s=2025; t=1774008559; bh=ESHx3gXs6F4yeNYgl2my/pQJpC/5WWoUrhPXOK8xsag=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=OwiOajOKCphE/HdB4AIMje2a52sw8VVqAuesBkc9XScYzElSyZmRjthq9GHmuM+QW bWJk3Zu7c2UZOhnhN54JMSzBS2icBMRgG5BBDTeiSMyeMd/VWEBTz+T7x+uewdQ6++ ABJJR2wd708tp3Rt0lvn6jxchezHGk+DiuZbTQ9ZI8jTaZIDw3YtE7jUd8AAas7mwX ywM4gu9eJbNauJLuYD5e14IPwkvAybsFU3ycCYXYG/dfwhf2G1cm1WVVZuWn9X41Hs CUcoR9iBVCRx45gD6DJbQZXXnbhDYYGo4lGcguFtdHNT3e0fy/tqQ9cCyUq6P/TP0a oFcV27E3OIJmA== Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 13:09:16 +0100 From: Pablo Neira Ayuso To: Florian Westphal Cc: Phil Sutter , netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [nf-next PATCH] netfilter: nfnetlink_hook: Dump nat type chains Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 12:47:23PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote: > Phil Sutter wrote: > > > Sure, but <=nftables-1.1.6 will still get it wrong. Can we tolerate > > > that? > > > > The kernel could dump them in reverse. :D > > WTF, no no no. > > The kernel is fine, this is a userspace bug. I think so too. One of the main use-cases for 'list hooks' is to display the order in which hooks are run.