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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
To: Eric Woudstra <ericwouds@gmail.com>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@netfilter.org>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Frank Wunderlich <frank-w@public-files.de>,
	Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org,
	bridge@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 00/12] bridge-fastpath and related improvements
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:17:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5739f78-9cd5-4fd0-ae63-d80a5a37aaf0@nbd.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d7d48102-4c52-4161-a21c-4d5b42539fbb@gmail.com>

On 16.10.24 17:59, Eric Woudstra wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/15/24 9:44 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>> On 15.10.24 15:32, Eric Woudstra wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/24 2:16 PM, Felix Fietkau wrote:
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>
>>>> On 14.10.24 20:29, Eric Woudstra wrote:
>>>>> It would be no problem for me to change the subject and body, if you
>>>>> think that is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing is, these patches actually make it possible to set up a fully
>>>>> functional software fastpath between bridged interfaces. Only after the
>>>>> software fastpath is set up and functional, it can be offloaded, which
>>>>> happens to by my personal motivation to write this patch-set.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the offload flag is set in the flowtable, the software fastpath will
>>>>> be offloaded. But in this patch-set, there is nothing that changes
>>>>> anything there, the existing code is used unchanged.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, a while back, I also wanted to add a software fast path for the
>>>> bridge layer to the kernel, also with the intention of using it for
>>>> hardware offload. It wasn't accepted back then, because (if I remember
>>>> correctly) people didn't want any extra complexity in the network stack
>>>> to make the bridge layer faster.
>>>
>>> Hello Felix,
>>>
>>> I think this patch-set is a clear showcase it is not very complex at
>>> all. The core of making it possible only consists a few patches. Half of
>>> this patch-set involves improvements that also apply to the
>>> forward-fastpath.
>> 
>> It's definitely an interesting approach. How does it deal with devices
>> roaming from one bridge port to another? I couldn't find that in the code.
> 
> It is handled in the same manner when dealing with the forward-fastpath,
> with the aid of conntrack. If roaming is problematic, then it would be
> for both the forward-fastpath and the bridge-fastpath. I have a topic on
> the banana-pi forum about this patch-set, so I think long discussions
> about additional details we could have there, keeping the mailing list
> more clean.

You forgot to include a link to the forum topic :)

By the way, based on some reports that I received, I do believe that the 
existing forwarding fastpath also doesn't handle roaming properly.
I just didn't have the time to properly look into that yet.

- Felix

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-17  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-13 18:54 [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 00/12] bridge-fastpath and related improvements Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 01/12] netfilter: nf_flow_table_offload: Add nf_flow_encap_push() for xmit direct Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 02/12] netfilter: bridge: Add conntrack double vlan and pppoe Eric Woudstra
2024-10-18 13:17   ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-10-18 18:53     ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:54 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 03/12] netfilter: nft_chain_filter: Add bridge " Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 04/12] bridge: br_vlan_fill_forward_path_pvid: Add port to port Eric Woudstra
2024-10-14  6:36   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 05/12] bridge: br_fill_forward_path add " Eric Woudstra
2024-10-14  6:30   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 06/12] net: core: dev: Add dev_fill_bridge_path() Eric Woudstra
2024-10-14  6:59   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-14 18:34     ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-16  7:43       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-16 15:57         ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 07/12] netfilter :nf_flow_table_offload: Add nf_flow_rule_bridge() Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 08/12] netfilter: nf_flow_table_inet: Add nf_flowtable_type flowtable_bridge Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 09/12] netfilter: nft_flow_offload: Add NFPROTO_BRIDGE to validate Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 10/12] netfilter: nft_flow_offload: Add DEV_PATH_MTK_WDMA to nft_dev_path_info() Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 11/12] bridge: br_vlan_fill_forward_path_mode no _UNTAG_HW for dsa Eric Woudstra
2024-10-14  6:18   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-14  6:22     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-14 14:46       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-10-15 10:26         ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-20  9:23           ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-21 13:47             ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-10-22  7:25               ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-13 18:55 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 12/12] netfilter: nft_flow_offload: Add bridgeflow to nft_flow_offload_eval() Eric Woudstra
2024-10-14  6:35 ` [PATCH RFC v1 net-next 00/12] bridge-fastpath and related improvements Nikolay Aleksandrov
2024-10-14 18:29   ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-15 12:16     ` Felix Fietkau
2024-10-15 13:32       ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-15 19:44         ` Felix Fietkau
2024-10-16 15:59           ` Eric Woudstra
2024-10-17  9:17             ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2024-10-17 12:39               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-10-17 17:06                 ` Felix Fietkau
2024-10-17 18:09                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-10-17 18:39                     ` Felix Fietkau

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