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From: Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UDP DNAT to a broadcast address
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:19:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m27h9nrwcr.fsf@ohwell.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.01.1105182203510.27350@frira.zrqbmnf.qr> (Jan Engelhardt's message of "Wed, 18 May 2011 22:18:27 +0200 (CEST)")

Hi Jan,

thanks for the quick answer.

> On Wednesday 2011-05-18 17:58, Detlev Zundel wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>looking for the answer to this problem, I searched the web and this
>>mailing list, but I still couldn't find a definitive answer to the
>>question that I have.
>>
>>In my setup I need to a UDP packet sent to the external IP of my router
>>to trigger a broadcast UDP packet on the local network and relay back
>>the answers to this packet.
>>
>>It looks like this should do the trick:
>>
>>iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -i ppp0 -p udp --dport 3333 -j DNAT --to 
>>192.168.0.255
>>
>>Of course, as I write this e-mail, this does not work.
>
> On the contrary. This should exactly do what is requested: changing
> the dst address in the packet to 255, and you should be able to
> observe that this address change was successful by using -j LOG in
> filter-INPUT.
>
>>I can see the packets entering the INPUT chain, but I see no packets
>>on the OUTPUT chain. I speculate that this is because braodcast
>>addresses are not routable and thus the packet gets lost somewhere.
>
> By the very definition of broadcast, a receiver is not to route it
> any further, wh. As such, it enters INPUT. No loss, the machine
> properly receives it (as it is supposed to). OUTPUT is only for
> locally-generated packets, but received frames can only appear in
> INPUT or FORWARD.

Yes, sorry, I really meant that I did not see anything on the FORWARD
chain.

> Netfilter does not even play a role in this.
>
> All the bcast/mcast forwarders are userspace AFAICS.

Ok, thanks for the explanation, this now all makes sense to me and I'll
turn to userspace.

Best wishes
  Detlev

-- 
It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have
had a  prior exposure to BASIC:  as potential  programmers they are mentally
mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.                    -- Edsger Dijkstra 

      reply	other threads:[~2011-05-19  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-18 15:58 UDP DNAT to a broadcast address Detlev Zundel
2011-05-18 20:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-05-19  7:19   ` Detlev Zundel [this message]

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