From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Hanz F." Subject: RE: Nobody can help me ??? :( Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: netfilter-admin@lists.netfilter.org Message-ID: <20020930145245.71035.qmail@web40009.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: In-Reply-To: Errors-To: netfilter-admin@lists.netfilter.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Ferry van Steen Cc: Netfilter Hi, thanx Ferry for ur answer, I like long and detailed answers. U look to be a smart guy, but u forget a reason, which is: that no one has the answer !! ;-) I say this becoze any of the reasons u mentioned can apply to my case, anyway if u looked to my 1st email b4 answering u could save some of the time u spent writing this answer. 1- in fact if there was any smell of whiners it could be in my 2nd email but definetely not in the 1st. And the 2nd was answered !!! 2- If there was insufficient information I could be asked to provide more information (as u can see frequently if u look into the archive) 3,4- I could be told if there was no effort from my part to solve it, or if I was impolite I don't think that all people accept that someone talk to them in an impolite way without reacting. A look to archive as well shows that there's some questions answered although they are very evident, and anyone who makes a small effort can get the answer. 5- it's simple to know that my question wasn't answered in the archive if u looked into it. 6- My 2nd email was posted to be sure that the 1st email wasn't ignored becoze everyone was busy at the moment. Notice that some emails posted just b4 and after it have been answered. finally, I would say that if I used this mailing list it was becoze I couldn't get my answer by any other mean !! Anyway I am not here to argue with anyone, I just want to get an answer to my question becoze I prefer to use the Linux system, but unfortunately there's no serious support for it which encourage people to use the buggy Microsoft Windows and related products !! Best regards ==================== People are divided into two kinds: a kind who thinks people are divided into two kinds and a kind who don't --- Ferry van Steen wrote: > There are several reasons your question doesn't get > answered. > > 1. You whine, people don't like whiners (I'm not > saying you are :-)) > 2. Insufficient information was provided (Again, I'm > not saying you did) > 3. It was clear there was no effort from your part > to solve it, we're not > here to do your work (ok I hate repeating this, this > is a general list, I > didn't see your first post so let's just call this > the general answers to > your question) > 4. You were impolite/rude in which case you can > stuff the question and all > future ones there where the sun don't shine > 5. You asked a question that gets asked over and > over and people tire from > answering it, look in the archives/faq to prevent > this. Generally you will > be labeled like 1 or 3 above in which case future > questions get less > attention as well. > 6. Perhaps just everyone was busy at the moment. > Remember, nobody gets paid > here it's all voluntary. You could have asked at a > moment everyone was > really busy and just hit delete. Monday mornings are > moments like these. > > Please remember I didn't see your first post and > thus dunno which of the > above apply to you. I'm not trying to offend/flame > you. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hanz F. [mailto:hanz852@yahoo.com] > Sent: maandag 30 september 2002 10:27 > To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org > Subject: Nobody can help me ??? :( > > > HI > I've posted an email asking for help, but got no > answer !! Isn't this mailing list usefull for new > members or what ?? > All I need is to run all kind of softwares (IRC, > ICQ, > yahoo messenger ,.....) through Netfilter , isn't > that > possible ??? > Thanks to whom will answer me. > > Hanz > > > > ============= > There's three kind of people: people who can count > and > people who can't count. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com