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From: Arnt Karlsen <arnt@c2i.net>
To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: How to make a computer invisible
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 20:48:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031202204852.6813c406.arnt@c2i.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1070389153.2057.34.camel@grendel>

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:19:14 -0500, 
Chris Brenton <cbrenton@chrisbrenton.org> wrote in message 
<1070389153.2057.34.camel@grendel>:

> Greetings!
> 
> On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 11:26, Thomas Preissler wrote:
> > 
> > I mean, that it looks like that the computer with the ip x is not
> > reachable as the same as it is, when you address an ip that
> > addresses no computer, i.e. is an unused ip.
> 
> Then using a "drop" is not quite the same. Let's say you have no
> firewall and someone sends a packet to an unused IP:
> 
> packet is received by your edge router
> router realizes the target IP is local off of one interface
> router sends 3 ARP requests for the IP
> When no ARP reply is received, router gives up and returns a host
> unreachable to the source IP
> 
> Again, nmap expects the above which is why it reports "filtered" when
> it hits your drop rule. This is why you can mess up its results by
> returning host unreachables.

..so, to play dead, we really oughtta wait for the 3'rd "ping" 
before firing off the "Destination Host Unreachable"?

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.




  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-02 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-02  4:40 How to make a computer invisible Babar Kazmi
2003-12-02 15:14 ` Michael Gale
2003-12-02 15:48   ` Chris Brenton
2003-12-02 16:01     ` Michael Gale
2003-12-02 18:09       ` Chris Brenton
2003-12-02 16:26     ` Thomas Preissler
2003-12-02 18:19       ` Chris Brenton
2003-12-02 19:48         ` Arnt Karlsen [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-01  9:59 ph4ke
2003-11-30 18:12 Thomas Preissler
2003-11-30 18:31 ` Chris Brenton
2003-11-30 19:32 ` Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
2003-11-30 18:53   ` Chris Brenton
2003-11-30 19:49   ` Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães

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