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From: Antony Stone <Antony@Soft-Solutions.co.uk>
To: netfilter <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: Samba "Leak"
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:03:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407072303.51085.Antony@Soft-Solutions.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1089237164.30076.23.camel@localhost>

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 10:52 pm, David Cary Hart wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 15:35, Antony Stone wrote:
> >
> > Here are my comments / thoughts:
> >
> > 1. Just because you're seeing WAN addresses doesn't mean they aren't
> > spoofed (they could be packets from the LAN, but with external source
> > addresses?)
>
> ??

I can't think of a good reason why, but it seems quite possible to me that 
some Trojan / malware on an internal machine might generate packets with 
false source IPs?

I was just trying to think up an explanation for you seeing packets on your 
LAN with public IPs which didn't come through your firewall...

> > 2. Do you have any wireless involved anywhere, as a means for unknown
> > clients to access the network?
>
> Yes. Security is through the MAC of the client card. It's hard coded for
> our two cards. Encryption is still a challenge for MadWifi. I assumed
> that only the MAC of the router is sent out with packets.

Most Access Points are operated as bridges; therefore the MAC addresses will 
be the real MAC addresses of the communicating devices - you will never see 
the MAC address of the AP on packets unless someone is communicating with it 
directly (eg: SNMP?).

> > 3. A packet sniffer / IDS on the external firewall link + the Samba
> > subnet (DMZ?) should tell you what is really going on.   Maybe a chance
> > to play with Snort :)
>
> That's the simplest solution. I never could quite get the hang of The
> Pig but I suppose that Ethereal should get it done.

Yup - ethereal listening on both an external and an internal interface should 
do a perfectly good job.

Regards,

Antony.

-- 
Perfection in design is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but 
rather when there is nothing left to take away.

 - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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      reply	other threads:[~2004-07-07 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-07 19:23 Samba "Leak" David Cary Hart
2004-07-07 19:35 ` Antony Stone
2004-07-07 21:52   ` David Cary Hart
2004-07-07 22:03     ` Antony Stone [this message]

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