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From: /dev/rob0 <rob0@gmx.co.uk>
To: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Documentation (was Re: randomly changing IPs from different subnets (Google Mail))
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:13:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100623151345.GT19868@cardinal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C221BF0.40609@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 05:36:32PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote:
> /dev/rob0 wrote:
> 
> > http://www.netfilter.org/news.html :
> > 
> > "2004-Jun-15
> > 	New iptables 1.2.10 release ..."
> > 
> > That was SIX YEARS ago.
> 
> Yes and it has worked very well for SIX YEARS on those particular 
> servers.

FWIW I have a Slackware 10.0 server with iptables 1.2.10, which will 
be six years old in October. Nothing wrong with not upgrading if a 
server is working fine.

The point is: I don't assume that's up-to-date. Two years is a long 
time in Linux terms, and we have had three such long times since A.D. 
2004.

> What can be done about the old web tutorials and howtos?  Many have 
> not been touched in years, even if only to refresh the date stamp 

Stamp a big red warning label on the whole WWW, stating that content 
is provided as-is and with no guarantees. :)

> and say things are still valid or to post a warning for staleness.  
> e.g.:
> 
> http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//networking-concepts-HOWTO.html
> 
> If I had to choose one to start with, it might be the Oskar 
> Andreasson tutorial:
> 
> 	http://www.frozentux.net/documents/iptables-tutorial/

I think Oskar's is still the definitive work, but indeed, it shows 
its age. If I could get a grant, I would be happy to start work on 
updating Oskar's tutorial and Rusty's Unreliable Guides.

Such grants are more likely to be offered to actual Netfilter 
developers, of course. They're more deserving than I am. But I'm 
stuck with bills and expenses, so I have to find something which 
pays. When someone with the time to spare comes along and wants to 
fill the need, it will be done.
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-23 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-22 18:16 randomly changing IPs from different subnets (Google Mail) Florian Effenberger
2010-06-22 18:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-22 18:30   ` Florian Effenberger
2010-06-22 19:16     ` Lars Nooden
2010-06-23  8:53       ` Florian Effenberger
2010-06-23  9:33         ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-06-23 16:46           ` Florian Effenberger
2010-06-23 11:52         ` Lars Nooden
2010-06-23 11:54           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-23 13:47             ` Lars Nooden
2010-06-23 13:52               ` John Haxby
2010-06-23 14:12               ` /dev/rob0
2010-06-23 14:36                 ` Documentation (was Re: randomly changing IPs from different subnets (Google Mail)) Lars Nooden
2010-06-23 15:13                   ` /dev/rob0 [this message]
2010-06-23 16:00                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-23 16:15                       ` Lars Nooden
2010-06-23 16:36                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-23 18:34                           ` Grant Taylor
2010-06-23 18:41                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-23 18:53                               ` Grant Taylor
2010-06-24  6:17                     ` Andrew Beverley
2010-06-24 16:45                       ` Grant Taylor
2010-06-23 16:44           ` randomly changing IPs from different subnets (Google Mail) Florian Effenberger
2010-06-23 18:36           ` Grant Taylor
2010-06-22 19:18     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-06-22 18:55 ` Jeff Largent
2010-06-23  1:09   ` /dev/rob0
2010-06-23  1:22     ` Mike Lay

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