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From: "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu>
Cc: "netfilter@vger.kernel.org" <netfilter@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: conntrack and ICMP echo replies not showing as ESTABLISHED
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:36:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180102183645.77a59ecc@playground> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28c711a6f49a42059d3cf6b47b486f8d@CCDEX023.corp.corpcommon.com>

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 21:56:07 +0000
André Paulsberg-Csibi (IBM Consultant)         <Andre.Paulsberg-Csibi@evry.com> wrote:

> As far as I can tell - ESTABLISHED - is only for session based protocols like TCP .
> You will not see that for UDP or ICMP , as far as CONNTRACK is concerned .  

With netfilter, there are five connection states: NEW, RELATED, ESTABLISHED, INVALID and RAW.
  - A NEW packet is the first packet of a new peer-to-peer communication connection
    (a conn), be it TCP, SCTP, UDP, GRE, or any other protocol.
  - A RELATED packet is the first packet of a new conn that netfilter determined is
    related to an existing conn (the data conn of an FTP conn, for example).
  - When two-way communication is established with a reply packet, the conn's state
    changes to ESTABLISHED.
  - INVALID packets are those that netfilter has received but has no idea what to do
    with them; they are packets that can only belong to an ESTABLISHED conn but it can
    find no such conn in its database.
  - I think RAW packets are those that netfilter has been told not to process; but I'm
    not sure of this as I've never had reason to use RAW packets.

In netfilter, 'connection' is not related to connection-oriented protocols. It has to do with the relationship--the logical connection--between two endpoints on a LAN or on some internetwork of them. It is much like two people talking on a walkie-talkie, two people exchanging TXT MSGs, or two people talking on a phone that has a circuit-switched connection set up between them.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-02 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-02 21:05 conntrack and ICMP echo replies not showing as ESTABLISHED Oliver O'Boyle
2018-01-02 21:56 ` André Paulsberg-Csibi (IBM Consultant)
2018-01-02 23:36   ` Neal P. Murphy [this message]
2018-01-03 10:13     ` André Paulsberg-Csibi (IBM Consultant)
2018-01-03 14:01       ` Oliver O'Boyle
2018-01-03 14:34         ` Humberto Jucá
2018-01-03 15:15           ` Oliver O'Boyle
2018-01-03 17:51             ` Oliver O'Boyle
2018-01-02 23:46   ` Pascal Hambourg

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