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From: "__ Radien__" <radien@zworg.com>
To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: RE: Circuit Level Gateway & Filtering!?
Date: Thu,  8 Apr 2004 02:52:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27002.1081417930@zworg.com> (raw)

Thx Antony
But: 

>Circuit level filtering means packet filtering - what netfilter does - in 
>other words you filter packets based on where they've come from and where 
>they're going to (IP addresses), and on *assumptions* about what the TCP/UDP 
>port numbers mean, rather than based on anything that's actually inside the body of the packets (data).

  I read it's sth more than packet filtering, and it work on session
layer. Working on session layer is a little hard for me to underestand.
I'm looking for some example.

  I guess ESTABLISHED state option of iptables make it work on such
level, but I'm not sure.


>Application level filtering means proxies - software which can understand 
>protocols like http, smtp, pop3, ftp, irc.... and look at the data and 
>commands which are being transferred between machines, then base the 
>filtering decisions on that (as well as IP addresses and hostnames).


>Gateway simply refers to a machine which is in the path between your network 
>and the outside world - can mean anything from a simple router with no 
>filtering capabilities to a multi-protocol proxy server with intrusion detection.

Thx but, I meant "Circuit Level gateway" not a simple gateway I mean
IP(or network level).

>Netfilter (iptables) is a stateful packet filter, and therefore operates at 
>layers 3/4 of the OSI model - the network layers.   It does not meaningfully 
>operate at layer 7 - the application layer.

But I think matching RELATED state of ftp data connection means working
on layer 7.

>If you want realistic application layer filtering on a linux system you need 
>proxy applications like sendmail/exim/apache/squid/frox.   Netfilter won't do 
>it for you.

So u mean there's no such matching module or action in Netfilter.

P.S. Below is what I read about Circuit Level (Filtering and Gateway).
But they are alittle ambiguous!

Regards
__Radien__

http://www.pc-help.org/www.nwinternet.com/pchelp/lockdown/claims/firewalls.htm
http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-10/node53.html&e=7317
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1450&page=5
http://www.firewall-software.com/firewall_faqs/types_of_firewall.html


             reply	other threads:[~2004-04-08  9:52 UTC|newest]

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2004-04-08  9:52 __ Radien__ [this message]
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2004-04-08  7:28 Circuit Level Gateway & Filtering!? __ Radien__
2004-04-08  8:40 ` Antony Stone

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