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From: Taylor Grant <gtaylor@riverviewtech.net>
To: Chris Brenton <cbrenton@chrisbrenton.org>
Cc: netfilter <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
Subject: Re: TCP packets with RST flag set but **not** ACK flag OK??
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:01:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <425B481B.7070108@riverviewtech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1113278818.2151.87.camel@grendel>

> If I follow what you are saying here, the concern is the returning ICMP
> host unreachables may be used as part of a DoS. Is this correct? 

Yes, you are following me there.

> If so, the concern is pretty minimal. Packet size is small, only 56
> bytes in size, so bandwidth utilization is small. Unsolicited ICMP
> errors are going to be quickly discarded by the receiving system, so its
> not going to cause much of a CPU hit on the target. Unfortunately there
> are far too many other ways of performing a DoS that would be much more
> effective and efficient. 

*nod*  I'm not saying that it's one of the most efficient ways to DDoS someone, but I am saying that it is a way and some institutions politically decide that they would rather DROP packets than possibly participate in a DDoS against someone else.

> Ya, geek stuff is cool. :D

It has gotten me in to trouble too.  I tend to spend too much time working on geek stuff.  Oh, well I had fun doing it.



Grant. . . .


  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-12  4:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-11 19:18 TCP packets with RST flag set but **not** ACK flag OK?? Christian Seberino
2005-04-11 19:49 ` Chris Brenton
2005-04-11 21:57 ` Taylor, Grant
2005-04-12  0:36   ` Chris Brenton
2005-04-12  2:32     ` Grant Taylor
2005-04-12  4:06       ` Chris Brenton
2005-04-12  4:01         ` Taylor Grant [this message]
2005-04-12  7:24         ` Taylor Grant
2005-04-12 14:41           ` Chris Brenton
2005-04-12  4:22     ` Taylor Grant

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