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From: "Jörg Harmuth" <harmuth@mnemon.de>
To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: OUTPUT filtering
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:56:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42D68B25.6010305@mnemon.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42D6589E.5090707@ufomechanic.net>

Amin Azez schrieb:
> Quite so, but output filtering can also be applied to a
> firewall/router/bridge with no user accounts.

Definitely this is true. But why would you want to apply output
filtering to a firewall,..., without any user account ? I can't see the
point in this, if we are talking about general output filtering like
having a DROP policy in OUTPUT.

Only locally generated packets go through OUTPUT and most likely you
want this traffic (proxies,...). Given that there is no config error, if
there is unwanted traffic on the box - let's say IRC - chances are best
that the box is compromized and as there is no user account, the
intruder has root priveleges. So he is perfectly able to circumvent any
filtering. So, output filtering didn't help.

Ofcourse there are good reason for single OUTPUT rules - this list
helped me to remember identd, which caused a responding delay of about
30s - but this is not generally.

May be I'm missing important views, but I can't see that output
filtering makes sense.

Have a nice time,

Joerg



      reply	other threads:[~2005-07-14 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-13  9:05 Ip_conntrack_ftp with PASSIVE FTP does not work Chandra.Vempali
2005-07-13  9:38 ` Jörg Harmuth
2005-07-13 10:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-07-13 14:45     ` OUTPUT filtering (was: Re: Ip_conntrack_ftp ...) /dev/rob0
2005-07-14 12:20       ` OUTPUT filtering Amin Azez
2005-07-14 15:56         ` Jörg Harmuth [this message]

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