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From: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@gmail.com>
To: Sietse van Zanen <sietse@wizdom.nu>
Cc: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: Messages in log with SNAT target
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:21:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44C75021.9070204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02BB8A4AC86C564C89C7F14CF98CE0C40127E0@knowledge.wizdom.nu>

Sietse van Zanen wrote:
> That, or put your WiFi in a DMZ behind a firewall, and have the firewall protect your private network.
>  
> Making WiFi DMZ's is sort of standard practice.
>  
> -sietse

I don't really get it.

As far as I can see, there are currently two weak points in my network:
1. Someone could compromise one of the hosts remotely.
2. Someone could crack the WLAN encryption.

No matter what kind of firewalls or network schemes I deploy, neither of
those points goes away.


> ________________________________
> 
> From: Anssi Hannula [mailto:anssi.hannula@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 26-Jul-06 10:16
> To: R. DuFresne
> Cc: Sietse van Zanen; netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
> Subject: Re: Messages in log with SNAT target
> 
> 
> 
> R. DuFresne wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Sietse van Zanen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The security risk is, and it is a MAJOR one, especially with WiFi
>>>>>networks is that any PC on the network could just be set up with a
>>>>>private IP on your private network, start sniffing for passwords etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's a very, very bad idea to put your public and private WiFi
>>>>>infratructure on the same physical network.
>>>>>I would say, there's even no point in firewalling this. Firewalling
>>>>>is seperating, you are combining.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Sietse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In this case the private network is only a very small home network. I
>>>>don't see there being too big a risk of anyone setting up a box with
>>>>private IP on the network with harm on their mind. If that would be
>>>>possible, wouldn't the security of the whole system be compromised so
>>>>much that the private/public separation doesn't matter anymore?
>>>>
>>>>The main purpose of the private IPs here is the ease of use and having
>>>>no public IP for a system if so wanted.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hopefully, for yer sake, you are the only home for mile and miles
>>around....Yet, I doubt such is the case, so you are a risk to all sadly.
>>
> 
> 
> So, what do you suggest, then?
> 
> That I have 2 separate wireless networks, one for the internet and one
> for the private network?
> 
> (the WLAN is of course WPA encrypted)
> 
> --
> Anssi Hannula
> 
> 


-- 
Anssi Hannula



  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-26 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-24  9:17 Messages in log with SNAT target Anssi Hannula
2006-07-24 10:15 ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-24 10:24 ` Pascal Hambourg
2006-07-24 10:49   ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-25 13:21     ` Pascal Hambourg
2006-07-25 13:37       ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-24 11:03   ` Anssi Hannula
2006-07-24 11:33     ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-24 12:01       ` Anssi Hannula
2006-07-24 12:39         ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-24 12:55           ` Anssi Hannula
2006-07-26  0:40         ` R. DuFresne
2006-07-26  8:16           ` Anssi Hannula
2006-07-26  9:17             ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-26 11:21               ` Anssi Hannula [this message]
2006-07-26 11:22                 ` Sietse van Zanen
2006-07-26 11:54                   ` Anssi Hannula
2006-07-27 19:09                     ` R. DuFresne
2006-07-27 19:46                       ` Anssi Hannula

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