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From: Pascal Hambourg <pascal.mail@plouf.fr.eu.org>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>
Cc: netfilter@vger.kernel.org, "Dennis J." <dennisml@conversis.de>,
	pablo@netfilter.org
Subject: Re: Synflood filtering and Conntrack
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:16:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C517F47.9030805@plouf.fr.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007291448450.15281@obet.zrqbmnf.qr>

Jan Engelhardt a écrit :
> On Thursday 2010-07-29 14:34, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>> Trying 127.0.0.1...
>>>>      [NEW] tcp      6 120 SYN_SENT src=127.0.0.1 dst=127.0.0.1
>>>> sport=59734 dport=23 [UNREPLIED] src=127.0.0.1 dst=127.0.0.1 sport=23
>>>> dport=59734
>>>>
>>>> ...seconds later...
>>>> # conntrack -L | grep =23
>>>> conntrack v0.9.14 (conntrack-tools): 12 flow entries have been shown.
>>>> tcp      6 97 SYN_SENT src=127.0.0.1 dst=127.0.0.1 sport=59734
>>>> dport=23 packets=1 bytes=60 [UNREPLIED] src=127.0.0.1 dst=127.0.0.1
>>>> sport=23 dport=59734 packets=0 bytes=0 mark=0 secmark=0 use=2
>>>>
>>>> 2 minutes it is.
>>
>> That's because it is a locally generated connection, so the conntrack
>> confirm takes place after POSTROUTING. Even though the packet is dropped
>> in INPUT after it is looped back, the conntrack entry is already
>> confirmed. Now try again with the DROP rule in OUTPUT, or from a remote
>> host.
> 
> But the ct entry must undoubtly exist to be able to match -m conntrack 
> --ctstate NEW. Perhaps it's just that conntrack(8) won't show it?

I don't know how things work internally [1], but from the outside it
seems to me that the conntrack entry exists only until the packet is
dropped, i.e. very briefly.

[1] I can read C, but that does not mean I can understand the thousands
of lines of the kernel source code.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-29 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-27 22:29 Synflood filtering and Conntrack Dennis J.
2010-07-28  5:24 ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-28  6:11   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-28 13:30     ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-28 14:10       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-28 14:27         ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-29 11:11     ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 11:21       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-29 11:31         ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 12:34           ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-29 12:49             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-29 13:16               ` Pascal Hambourg [this message]
2010-07-29 15:50               ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-07-29 17:14                 ` Gáspár Lajos
2010-07-29 17:52                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-07-29 22:18                 ` Mart Frauenlob
2010-07-29 23:19                 ` Pascal Hambourg
2010-07-30 10:32                   ` Jozsef Kadlecsik

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