From: Jonathan Tripathy <jonnyt@abpni.co.uk>
To: John Haxby <john.haxby@oracle.com>
Cc: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VLANs
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:52:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2C5285.9070108@abpni.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D2C5193.6010703@oracle.com>
> On 11/01/11 12:24, Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
>>
>> For seeing what I mean about VLAN hopping:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLAN_hopping
>
> Ahh. That's interesting, but not nearly so interesting (or useful)
> as the Cisco document that it cites:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_white_paper09186a008013159f.shtml#wp39054
>
> Basically the hopping only works if the trunk has the same native vlan
> as the attacker. This, the cisco article goes on to say, is
> considered to be a misconfiguration. You can read it yourself, but
> there are two ways of avoiding this.
>
> It's still not clear to me how you would get a reply from the attack
> -- you'd need something on the receiving end that can also do the
> double tagging (which is not 802.1ad, it's a second 802.1a tag, to be
> clear).
>
> jch
Yes I actually read that document. It's a very good document indeed,
however I took it "with a pince of salt" as it's also got marketing
behind it.
Indeed, I have no idea how a double tagging attack would work in regards
to getting a reply, as Ethernet traffic is of course stateless.
I'm still trying to see what I can do to make my Xen network structure
as secure as possible. I would indeed like to make some ebtables rules
that just make sure that there are no taggs at all.
But maybe this is going to far?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-11 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-10 17:42 VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-10 21:33 ` VLANs John Haxby
2011-01-10 22:15 ` VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-11 8:19 ` VLANs Thomas Berg
2011-01-11 10:26 ` VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-11 10:42 ` VLANs John Haxby
2011-01-11 10:57 ` VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
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2011-01-11 12:24 ` VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-11 12:48 ` VLANs John Haxby
2011-01-11 12:52 ` Jonathan Tripathy [this message]
2011-01-11 17:12 ` VLANs John Haxby
2011-01-11 17:15 ` VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-11 17:21 ` VLANs John Haxby
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2011-01-05 12:12 VLANs Jonathan Tripathy
2011-01-06 7:32 ` VLANs John Haxby
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