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From: GMail Isaac Gonzalez <isaak.gonzalez@gmail.com>
To: Giles Coochey <giles@coochey.net>
Cc: "Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	"Gáspár Lajos" <swifty@freemail.hu>,
	"netfilter list" <netfilter@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: POSTROUTING SNAT only reply packets
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:57:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D342E99.2030501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D342AF4.6070504@coochey.net>

El 17/01/11 12:41, Giles Coochey escribió:
> On 17/01/2011 12:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>> On Monday 2011-01-17 11:55, Giles Coochey wrote:
>>>> You should do all of the NAT-ing ON THE LOAD BALANCER:
>>>>
>>> I have to agree - if you are doing NAT you want to avoid any type of 
>>> asymmetric
>>> routing - especially you NEED to make sure that the device that is 
>>> doing the
>>> NAT (be it for load balancing or other reasons) receives the return 
>>> packets.
>> Not strictly. You could utilize a second device whose CTs are 
>> synchronized
>> with the LB to apply the reverse transform, using conntrackd.
>> Sort of like
>>
>> digraph { internet ->  lb; lb ->  web; web ->  unnat; unnat ->  
>> internet; };
>>
>> but it only looks feasible to me if your LB is already computationally
>> crowded.
>> -- 
> It also requires the loadbalancer to be using netfilter as well.
>
> If it's a hardware load balancer with proprietary methods then you 
> will need symmetric routing through it, unless it supports some form 
> of TCP state sharing.
>
It works with propietary methods. The real solution if do symmetrical 
routing, all the replies must pass through the LB.  I can't use 
conntrackd because I can't install anything in the LB.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-17 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 10:16 POSTROUTING SNAT only reply packets GMail Isaac Gonzalez
2011-01-17 10:38 ` Gáspár Lajos
2011-01-17 10:51   ` GMail Isaac Gonzalez
2011-01-17 11:14     ` Amos Jeffries
2011-01-17 10:55   ` Giles Coochey
2011-01-17 11:07     ` GMail Isaac Gonzalez
2011-01-17 11:36     ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-01-17 11:41       ` Giles Coochey
2011-01-17 11:57         ` GMail Isaac Gonzalez [this message]
2011-01-17 12:10           ` Jan Engelhardt
2011-01-17 23:07 ` Michael Vallaly
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-17 10:15 Isaac González

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