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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: Nikolai Zhubr <n-a-zhubr@yandex.ru>,
	libvirt-users@redhat.com, netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [libvirt-users] netfilter+libvirt=(smth got broken?)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:18:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514A7BFD.5060401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321023046.GA4189@localhost>

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On 03/20/2013 08:30 PM, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:

>>
>> So apparently, netfilter's behaviour was indeed reversed at some
>> point, therefore libvirt stopped working properly.
> 
> --ctdir was broken and it was fixed in patch:

In other words, the kernel folks made a silent change in ABI.  Eww.

How can we reliably tell which kernels have the old behavior, and which
have the new, so that libvirt knows which sense to use?

> By looking at the changes you made:
> 
>> --A FI-vnet0 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 110 -m conntrack --ctstate
>> ESTABLISHED -m conntrack --ctdir ORIGINAL -j RETURN
>> +-A FI-vnet0 -p tcp -m tcp --sport 110 -m conntrack --ctstate
>> ESTABLISHED -m conntrack --ctdir REPLY -j RETURN
> 
> The first rule looks wrong to me indeed, traffic coming in the
> original direction will initiate the connection to destination port
> TCP/110. Therefore, your change is correct.

Correct for the new kernel interpretation, but we also want to support
use of libvirt with older kernels, preferably with a runtime check so
that a binary compiled on an older kernel will still work after a kernel
upgrade.

> 
> It's unfortunate nobody noticed this rule was incorrect so far (even
> if it was working).

It's also unfortunate that the kernel folks did a silent ABI change,
without offering any witness of which behavior is in operation.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-21  3:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-20 12:47 netfilter+libvirt=(smth got broken?) Nikolai Zhubr
2013-03-20 13:06 ` Nikolai Zhubr
2013-03-20 13:41 ` Nikolai Zhubr
     [not found]   ` <514A1F0A.4090402@laine.org>
     [not found]     ` <514A1F0A.4090402-k/Ak44NBdeXYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-20 23:01       ` Nikolai Zhubr
2013-03-21  2:30   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-03-21  3:18     ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-03-21  9:55       ` [libvirt-users] " Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-03-22 10:53         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-03-22 18:10           ` Laine Stump
2013-03-26 14:18             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2013-03-27 18:22               ` Laine Stump
2013-03-21 10:32       ` Nikolai Zhubr

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