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From: "U.Mutlu" <um@mutluit.com>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: imnozi@gmail.com, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [nftables/nft] nft equivalent of "ipset test"
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 15:03:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <652FD7B0.7020405@mutluit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZS/GZxyC4vTx3Ln2@calendula>

Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote on 10/18/23 13:49:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 01:07:07PM +0200, U.Mutlu wrote:
> [...]
>> Lately I've extended this to make it a 2-stage: if blocked IP
>> continues sending more than x packets while in timeout of y minutes,
>> then add this attacker to the second set that has a much higher timeout of z
>> minutes.
>>
>> One additional practical benefit of this approach is that
>> now one sees the hardcore attackers grouped (they are those in set2).
>>
>> The correct managing of these two sets requires the said
>> atomicity by testing of BOTH sets before adding the IP to the first set...
>>
> You should look at nftables concatenations, you do not have to split
> this information accross two sets in nftables. For adding entries from
> packet path, have a look at dynamic sets.
>
> Two sets also means two lookups from packet path.

But as said above, I need a seperate 2nd set anyway,
to be able to see the hardcore attackers.
For example for auto-generating and filing
an Abuse Report to the abuse-address (WHOIS)
of the owning ISP of that attacker/hacker IP.

Your other suggestions make sense, indeed, but ATM
are too advanced for me; I would need some time to
learn these advanced concepts possible in current nftables.
In the meantime iptables with ipset shall suffice for my non-HA needs.  :-)

Thx.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-17 17:11 [nftables/nft] nft equivalent of "ipset test" U.Mutlu
2023-10-17 21:35 ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-17 21:55   ` U.Mutlu
2023-10-17 22:05     ` Florian Westphal
2023-10-17 22:36       ` U.Mutlu
2023-10-18  9:23         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
     [not found]         ` <20231017200057.57cfce21@playground>
2023-10-18  9:36           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-18  9:54             ` U.Mutlu
2023-10-18 10:00               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-18 11:07                 ` U.Mutlu
2023-10-18 11:49                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2023-10-18 13:03                     ` U.Mutlu [this message]
2023-10-18 14:37                   ` Phil Sutter
2023-10-18 11:54               ` Kerin Millar

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