Linux Netfilter discussions
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Tobias DiPasquale <codeslinger@gmail.com>
To: netfilter@lists.netfilter.org
Subject: Re: kernel-2.6: ipsec without devices
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:05:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <876ef97a04080506051db8a52f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1091709309.28776.9.camel@les-home.futuresource.com>

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 07:35:09 -0500, Les Mikesell <les@futuresource.com> wrote:
> A more fundamental question: does anyone know why Linux uses
> pseudo devices for networking instead of having real names
> in /dev with associated permissions and inodes connected
> to drivers by major/minor numbers?  It seems odd not to
> be able to control access to /dev/tcp by group permisions
> like you can every other device.

Because network devices aren't easily manipulated using the standard
UNIX "everything is a file" methodology. They are packet-oriented, as
opposed to character- or block-oriented and as such, the normal
read()/write()/close()/etc suite of system calls doesn't make sense
for network devices (therefore, there's no reason to have a /dev file
for them). Also, network devices push packets towards the kernel
asynchronously (as far as the kernel's concerned, anyway);
chrdev/blkdev devices do so in response to some kind of request. No
UNIX(-alike) that I know of has /dev files that correspond to network
devices.

-- 
[ Tobias DiPasquale ]
0x636f6465736c696e67657240676d61696c2e636f6d


  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-05 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-05  9:33 kernel-2.6: ipsec without devices richard lucassen
2004-08-05 10:09 ` Antony Stone
2004-08-05 10:25   ` richard lucassen
2004-08-05 12:35     ` Les Mikesell
2004-08-05 13:05       ` Tobias DiPasquale [this message]
2004-08-05 15:48         ` Les Mikesell
2004-08-05 16:35           ` Tobias DiPasquale

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=876ef97a04080506051db8a52f@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=codeslinger@gmail.com \
    --cc=netfilter@lists.netfilter.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox