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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Antonio Ojea <antonio.ojea.garcia@gmail.com>, netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Most optimal method to dump UDP conntrack entries
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:29:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZzH4mhspJvY6zTRA@calendula> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241111120946.GA13430@breakpoint.cc>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 01:09:46PM +0100, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org> wrote:
> > > This is how it is implemented today and it works, but it does not
> > > handle process restarts per example, or is not resilient to errors.
> > > The implementation is also much more complex because we need to
> > > implement all the possible edge cases that can leave stale entries
> > 
> > It should also be possible to shrink timeouts on restart via conntrack -U
> > which would be similar to the approach that Florian is proposing, but from
> > control plane rather than updating existing UDP timeout policy.
> 
> The time and effort needed to make something as basic as NAT
> work properly is jus silly.
> 
> Lets fix conntrack so this "just works".

Ok, then...

+static bool udp_ts_reply(struct nf_conn *ct, enum ip_conntrack_dir dir)
+{
+       bool is_reply = READ_ONCE(ct->proto.udp.last_dir) != dir;
+
+       if (is_reply)
+               WRITE_ONCE(ct->proto.udp.last_dir, dir);
+
+       return is_reply;
+}

... if packet in the other direction is seen, then...

+       if (udp_ts_reply(ct, dir))
+               nf_ct_refresh_acct(ct, ctinfo, skb, extra);

... conntrack entry is refreshed?

Will this work for, let's say, RTP traffic which goes over UDP and it
is unidirectional? Well, maybe you could occasionally see a RCTP
packet as reply to get statistics, but those could just not be
available.

I am not sure we can make assumptions on the direction like this, any
application protocol could run over UDP.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-11 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-17 10:26 Most optimal method to dump UDP conntrack entries Antonio Ojea
2024-10-17 12:46 ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-17 16:36   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-10-17 22:10     ` Antonio Ojea
2024-10-17 23:30       ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-18 11:05         ` Antonio Ojea
2024-10-18 11:33           ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-18 14:10             ` Antonio Ojea
2024-10-21 13:53               ` Florian Westphal
2024-10-23  9:03                 ` Benny Lyne Amorsen
2024-11-10 21:50                 ` Florian Westphal
2024-11-11  6:33                   ` Antonio Ojea
2024-11-11 12:06       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-11-11 12:09         ` Florian Westphal
2024-11-11 12:29           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2024-11-11 12:54             ` Florian Westphal
2024-11-12  9:16               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-11-12  9:20                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2024-11-12 14:41                   ` Antonio Ojea
2024-11-12 14:43                     ` Antonio Ojea
2024-11-12 16:18                     ` Florian Westphal
2024-11-15  4:11                       ` Antonio Ojea
2024-12-01 17:00                         ` Antonio Ojea

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