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From: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>, Xiubo Li <xiubli@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	netfs@lists.linux.dev, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, v9fs@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Zilin Guan <zilin@seu.edu.cn>, Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] netfs: Fix missing barriers by using clear_and_wake_up_bit()
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:11:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <554ff96b-5be5-46b0-ac8b-f178394856f3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3332016.1734183881@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

David Howells wrote:
> [Adding Paul McKenney as he's the expert.]
> 
> Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> David Howells wrote:
>>> Use clear_and_wake_up_bit() rather than something like:
>>>
>>> 	clear_bit_unlock(NETFS_RREQ_IN_PROGRESS, &rreq->flags);
>>> 	wake_up_bit(&rreq->flags, NETFS_RREQ_IN_PROGRESS);
>>>
>>> as there needs to be a barrier inserted between which is present in
>>> clear_and_wake_up_bit().
>>
>> If I am reading the kernel-doc comment of clear_bit_unlock() [1, 2]:
>>
>>     This operation is atomic and provides release barrier semantics.
>>
>> correctly, there already seems to be a barrier which should be
>> good enough.
>>
>> [1]: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/core-api/kernel-api.html#c.clear_bit_unlock
>> [2]: include/asm-generic/bitops/instrumented-lock.h
>>
>>>
>>> Fixes: 288ace2f57c9 ("netfs: New writeback implementation")
>>> Fixes: ee4cdf7ba857 ("netfs: Speed up buffered reading")
>>
>> So I'm not sure this fixes anything.
>>
>> What am I missing?
> 
> We may need two barriers.  You have three things to synchronise:
> 
>  (1) The stuff you did before unlocking.
> 
>  (2) The lock bit.
> 
>  (3) The task state.
> 
> clear_bit_unlock() interposes a release barrier between (1) and (2).
> 
> Neither clear_bit_unlock() nor wake_up_bit(), however, necessarily interpose a
> barrier between (2) and (3).

Got it!

I was confused because I compared kernel-doc comments of clear_bit_unlock()
and clear_and_wake_up_bit() only, without looking at latter's code.

clear_and_wake_up_bit() has this description in its kernel-doc:

 * The designated bit is cleared and any tasks waiting in wait_on_bit()
 * or similar will be woken.  This call has RELEASE semantics so that
 * any changes to memory made before this call are guaranteed to be visible
 * after the corresponding wait_on_bit() completes.

, without any mention of additional full barrier at your (3) above.

It might be worth mentioning it there.

Thoughts?

FWIW,

Reviewed-by: Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>

>                               I'm not sure it entirely matters, but it seems
> that since we have a function that combines the two, we should probably use
> it - though, granted, it might not actually be a fix.

Looks like it should matter where smp_mb__after_atomic() is stronger than
a plain barrier().

Akira


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-13 13:50 [PATCH 00/10] netfs, ceph, nfs, cachefiles: Miscellaneous fixes/changes David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 01/10] kheaders: Ignore silly-rename files David Howells
2024-12-21  5:15   ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 02/10] netfs: Fix non-contiguous donation between completed reads David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 03/10] netfs: Fix enomem handling in buffered reads David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 04/10] nfs: Fix oops in nfs_netfs_init_request() when copying to cache David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 05/10] cachefiles: Parse the "secctx" immediately David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 06/10] netfs: Remove redundant use of smp_rmb() David Howells
2024-12-16 10:13   ` Akira Yokosawa
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 07/10] netfs: Fix missing barriers by using clear_and_wake_up_bit() David Howells
2024-12-14 10:16   ` Akira Yokosawa
2024-12-14 13:44   ` David Howells
2024-12-16 10:11     ` Akira Yokosawa [this message]
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 08/10] netfs: Work around recursion by abandoning retry if nothing read David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 09/10] netfs: Fix ceph copy to cache on write-begin David Howells
2024-12-13 13:50 ` [PATCH 10/10] netfs: Fix the (non-)cancellation of copy when cache is temporarily disabled David Howells
2024-12-13 14:04 ` ceph xfstests failures [was Re: [PATCH 00/10] netfs, ceph, nfs, cachefiles: Miscellaneous fixes/changes] David Howells
2024-12-18 15:10   ` Alex Markuze
2024-12-16 20:34 ` [PATCH 11/10] netfs: Fix is-caching check in read-retry David Howells

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