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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, Gao Xiang <xiang@kernel.org>,
	netfs@lists.linux.dev, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfs: Fix potential circular locking through setxattr() and removexattr()
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 19:27:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZqqCH0wvHjpVrsQl@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240731181657.dprkkq5jxgatgx2v@quack3>

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 08:16:57PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> To fix this, either we'd have to keep the lower cache filesystem private to
> cachefiles (but I don't think that works with the usecases) or we have to
> somehow untangle this mmap_lock knot. This "page fault does quite some fs
> locking under mmap_lock" problem is not causing filesystems headaches for
> the first time. I would *love* to be able to always drop mmap_lock in the
> page fault handler, fill the data into the page cache and then retry the
> fault (so that filemap_map_pages() would then handle the fault without
> filesystem involvement). It would make many things in filesystem locking
> simpler. As far as I'm checking there are now not that many places that
> could not handle dropping of mmap_lock during fault (traditionally the
> problem is with get_user_pages() / pin_user_pages() users). So maybe this
> dream would be feasible after all.

The traditional problem was the array of VMAs which was removed in
commit b2cac248191b -- if we dropped the mmap_lock, any previous
entries in that array would become invalid.  Now that array is gone,
do we have any remaining dependencies on the VMAs remaining valid?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-31 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-23  8:59 [PATCH] vfs: Fix potential circular locking through setxattr() and removexattr() David Howells
2024-07-23 10:45 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-23 11:11   ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-23 12:32     ` Jan Kara
2024-07-23 13:57   ` David Howells
2024-07-23 15:40     ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-24 13:30     ` Jan Kara
2024-07-29 15:28       ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-31 18:16         ` Jan Kara
2024-07-31 18:27           ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2024-07-31 18:55             ` Jan Kara
2024-07-24  1:34   ` Dave Chinner
2024-07-24  2:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-23 12:57 ` Jan Kara
2024-07-24  8:11   ` David Howells

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