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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1784648586; bh=K8km+ZQgkLUVNh5jQNamAtWyAYxH8WzuI6GZYyhCw5A=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=i46hQ7WBWTSjsJoo0+aveeWDcCrbR28cpcdsOhYe47u8VnVADMzUCzgKDgO1zrrFL RvX8M8IyZbwW6+2/ZFYKqtdyCdD7Bu7yegasMnOCMW6PitAN9yJ5HbJKOCXUKS/Jo8 L6csKx3I2nudveiiZxOEhTUX4Y72B+kVDuKRxQiwFJVlPNIgxTlo2pnnik+08H/vAB wOZJ3QkGLxPrbYexz4Z2lPFM52xsYgt5WeZbuKkkIur+qqoEMW+gxo5TgYo20cxjeF 8dDfaslPMlAeyIafDK2s4i66yRQGvgmYRh1ZHlvhjlF4y8buBZXjFVNi7m2f+SrPSV Ve0R4XiL7aGhw== Message-ID: <3ed2043b-88e7-4a86-9efb-fe788191e8e8@kernel.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 17:42:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/8] mm/hmm: add hmm_range_fault_unlocked_timeout() for mmap lock-drop support To: Stanislav Kinsburskii , airlied@gmail.com, akhilesh@ee.iitb.ac.in, akpm@linux-foundation.org, corbet@lwn.net, dakr@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com, haiyangz@microsoft.com, jgg@ziepe.ca, kees@kernel.org, kys@microsoft.com, leon@kernel.org, liam@infradead.org, lizhi.hou@amd.com, ljs@kernel.org, longli@microsoft.com, lyude@redhat.com, maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com, mamin506@gmail.com, mhocko@suse.com, mripard@kernel.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, ogabbay@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com, rppt@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, simona@ffwll.ch, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, surenb@google.com, tzimmermann@suse.de, vbabka@kernel.org, wei.liu@kernel.org References: <178413903133.1155966.3904063656020521607.stgit@skinsburskii> <178413936536.1155966.8918127042760531802.stgit@skinsburskii> From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=david@kernel.org; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: DW2XZQRAAVDNOIZ7KXUWUFBB3QIS6HQN X-Message-ID-Hash: DW2XZQRAAVDNOIZ7KXUWUFBB3QIS6HQN X-MailFrom: david@kernel.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Nouveau development list Archived-At: Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7/15/26 20:16, Stanislav Kinsburskii wrote: > hmm_range_fault() requires the caller to hold the mmap read lock for the > duration of the call. This is incompatible with mappings whose fault > handler may release the mmap lock, notably userfaultfd-managed regions, > where handle_mm_fault() can return VM_FAULT_RETRY or VM_FAULT_COMPLETED > after dropping the lock. Drivers that need to populate device page tables > for such mappings have no way to do so today. > > Add hmm_range_fault_unlocked_timeout() for callers that do not need to hold > mmap_lock across any work outside the HMM fault itself. The helper takes > mmap_read_lock_killable() internally, calls the common HMM fault > implementation, and releases the lock before returning if it is still held. > The timeout is specified in jiffies; passing 0 retries indefinitely, while > a non-zero timeout makes the helper return -EBUSY when the retry budget > expires. The timeout does not / cannot affect how long we might be stuck without the mmap lock in e.g., the userfaultfd handler. And also not how long it would take to actually grab the mmap lock. That's expected with the timeout, right? [...] Nothing else jumped at me. -- Cheers, David