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From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: nova-gpu <nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev>,
	 M Henning <mhenning@darkrefraction.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	 Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	 Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
	 Eliot Courtney <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/11] drm: nova: Add an info ioctl
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 15:24:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <apZeL83cEzPygI57@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tw6nv7UbMvKOGSsZKKwoZwCG2hvwGk=JjmsxQcH=wGfqw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2026-09-01 at 14:53 +1000, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote...
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 at 13:36, Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >
> > Add an extensible info ioctl and use it to report basic GPU information.
> > One of the first things userspace needs to know about a GPU is its
> > architecture and implementation, so add that as the first field in the
> > GPU info result.
> >
> > The ioctl selects an information type by ID and writes the result through
> > a sized userspace buffer. The kernel truncates results to the supplied
> > size, allowing information structures to grow and new logical information
> > groups to be added without introducing new ioctls.
> >
> >
> 
> This is a higher level for the future, I think we have two paths for
> getparam type ioctl.
> 
> Either we expose a big struct full of values with a add to the end
> mentality or we keep a long list of value pairs, and userspace passes
> in a list of value keys, and we return a list of the values.

There's already been a fair bit of back and forth on this on this series and
this is where we ended up - a bunch of info ioctls returning big structs full
of values.

I did wonder if io_uring could be used by user-space to efficiently pass a list
of value keys as that's trivial enough to add to drm[1] but perf wise didn't
achieve much over just calling lots of ioctls, at least when I tested with a
mock key/value type interface.

[1] - https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2025-September/524469.html

> I'm trying to think ahead towards native virtio context support, and I
> think having the sequence,
> 
> open
> get_all_infos
> create vm/channel
> 
> might have the most optimal ioctl count but also let power management
> avoid booting the GPU on every open if we never create a vm/channel.

Power management is a good point - thus far all the info is cached in nova-core
anyway so there shouldn't be much impact there regardless of what interface
we choose.

Thanks.

 - Alistair

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-01  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-28  3:35 [PATCH v5 00/11] gpu: nova: Export parameters from nova-core to nova-drm Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] gpu: nova-core: Add public driver API to nova-core Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 20:08   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-31 20:42     ` Gary Guo
2026-09-01  7:07       ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01  7:14         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01  9:13           ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01  9:21             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 10:27       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 11:35         ` Gary Guo
2026-09-01  3:53     ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02  6:57     ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 19:30       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] drm: nova: Add DRM registration data Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] drm: nova: Add GPU architecture enum to nova-drm UAPI Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] rust: uaccess: add UserSliceWriter::write_truncated() Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] drm: nova: Add an info ioctl Alistair Popple
2026-08-31  4:58   ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:23   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01  3:47     ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01  4:50       ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-01  5:09         ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01  7:29           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02  5:21             ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02  7:05               ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 19:26                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02 19:38                   ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-02 19:42                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01  4:53   ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-01  5:24     ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2026-09-01 10:38   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 17:01     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02  2:38       ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02  9:40         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-03  1:12           ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-03 10:42             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-04  7:49               ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-04  9:34                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-04 11:13               ` Gary Guo
2026-09-04 12:08                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] drm: nova: Add usable VRAM size to GPU info Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] drm: nova: Use nova-core to read VRAM_BAR_SIZE parameter Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] drm: nova: Expose a render node Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] drm: nova: Report GPU name in GPU info Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:33   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01  3:09     ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] drm: nova: Report GPU short " Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:41   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01  3:10     ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  3:35 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] drm: nova: Report GPU GID " Alistair Popple
2026-08-28  6:04 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] gpu: nova: Export parameters from nova-core to nova-drm Alistair Popple

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