From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: nova-gpu <nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev>,
M Henning <mhenning@darkrefraction.com>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
Eliot Courtney <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/11] drm: nova: Add an info ioctl
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 15:24:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <apZeL83cEzPygI57@nvdebian.thelocal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9tw6nv7UbMvKOGSsZKKwoZwCG2hvwGk=JjmsxQcH=wGfqw@mail.gmail.com>
On 2026-09-01 at 14:53 +1000, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote...
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 at 13:36, Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >
> > Add an extensible info ioctl and use it to report basic GPU information.
> > One of the first things userspace needs to know about a GPU is its
> > architecture and implementation, so add that as the first field in the
> > GPU info result.
> >
> > The ioctl selects an information type by ID and writes the result through
> > a sized userspace buffer. The kernel truncates results to the supplied
> > size, allowing information structures to grow and new logical information
> > groups to be added without introducing new ioctls.
> >
> >
>
> This is a higher level for the future, I think we have two paths for
> getparam type ioctl.
>
> Either we expose a big struct full of values with a add to the end
> mentality or we keep a long list of value pairs, and userspace passes
> in a list of value keys, and we return a list of the values.
There's already been a fair bit of back and forth on this on this series and
this is where we ended up - a bunch of info ioctls returning big structs full
of values.
I did wonder if io_uring could be used by user-space to efficiently pass a list
of value keys as that's trivial enough to add to drm[1] but perf wise didn't
achieve much over just calling lots of ioctls, at least when I tested with a
mock key/value type interface.
[1] - https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2025-September/524469.html
> I'm trying to think ahead towards native virtio context support, and I
> think having the sequence,
>
> open
> get_all_infos
> create vm/channel
>
> might have the most optimal ioctl count but also let power management
> avoid booting the GPU on every open if we never create a vm/channel.
Power management is a good point - thus far all the info is cached in nova-core
anyway so there shouldn't be much impact there regardless of what interface
we choose.
Thanks.
- Alistair
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 5:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-28 3:35 [PATCH v5 00/11] gpu: nova: Export parameters from nova-core to nova-drm Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] gpu: nova-core: Add public driver API to nova-core Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 20:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-31 20:42 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-01 7:07 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01 7:14 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 9:13 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01 9:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 10:27 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 11:35 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-01 3:53 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 6:57 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 19:30 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] drm: nova: Add DRM registration data Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] drm: nova: Add GPU architecture enum to nova-drm UAPI Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] rust: uaccess: add UserSliceWriter::write_truncated() Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] drm: nova: Add an info ioctl Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 4:58 ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:23 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 3:47 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01 4:50 ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-01 5:09 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-01 7:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02 5:21 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 7:05 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 19:26 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02 19:38 ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-02 19:42 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 4:53 ` Dave Airlie
2026-09-01 5:24 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2026-09-01 10:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 17:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-02 2:38 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-02 9:40 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-03 1:12 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-03 10:42 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-04 7:49 ` Alistair Popple
2026-09-04 9:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-04 11:13 ` Gary Guo
2026-09-04 12:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] drm: nova: Add usable VRAM size to GPU info Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] drm: nova: Use nova-core to read VRAM_BAR_SIZE parameter Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] drm: nova: Expose a render node Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] drm: nova: Report GPU name in GPU info Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 3:09 ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] drm: nova: Report GPU short " Alistair Popple
2026-08-31 14:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-09-01 3:10 ` Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 3:35 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] drm: nova: Report GPU GID " Alistair Popple
2026-08-28 6:04 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] gpu: nova: Export parameters from nova-core to nova-drm Alistair Popple
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