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From: Mark Harmstone <mark@harmstone.com>
To: Konstantin Komarov <almaz.alexandrovich@paragon-software.com>,
	Kari Argillander <kari.argillander@gmail.com>
Cc: ntfs3@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs/ntfs3: Fix logic in ntfs_cmp_names_cpu
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 19:26:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1068834b-5c16-84e4-2692-938dd4e91121@harmstone.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14130f55-f61f-fb39-c653-02b4dd39bc6b@paragon-software.com>

On 7/10/21 15:33, Konstantin Komarov wrote:

 > This is optimized way of this algorithm ( from comment to ntfs_cmp_names ):
 >   * Straight way to compare names:
 >   * - Case insensitive
 >   * - If name equals and 'upcase' then
 >   * - Case sensitive

You have your first and third bullet points the wrong way round there. Am I
right then that the current case-insensitivity stuff is purely to determine
where the name goes in the $I30 B-tree?

 > I think, that ntfs3 need to be case sensitive.
 > And listed things, that I think support my opinion.
 > That's why I've mentioned that ntfs.sys is case sensitive.
 > That's why I've mentioned FILE_FLAG_POSIX_SEMANTICS and
 > FileCaseSensitiveInformation.
 > I don't think, that copying win32 api behavior is good,
 > when Microsoft makes steps to make ntfs work in posix way.

I'm surprised that what I wrote is controversial... NTFS is a case-insensitive
filesystem, that allows specific directories to override this with a flag. You
might wish it were otherwise, but the NTFS specification is defined by what
Microsoft's driver does.

Your driver lets me create a file called foo.txt and one called FOO.TXT in a
normal directory, and when I double-click on one in Windows the wrong file gets
opened. That's 100% a bug.

It's worth pointing out that the Linux vfat driver handles case-sensitivity on
Microsoft's other filesystem correctly.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-07 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-28 18:33 [PATCH] fs/ntfs3: Fix logic in ntfs_cmp_names_cpu Mark Harmstone
2021-09-28 19:11 ` Kari Argillander
2021-09-28 22:07 ` Kari Argillander
2021-09-28 23:27   ` Mark Harmstone
2021-10-04 18:25     ` Mark Harmstone
2021-10-06 14:37       ` Konstantin Komarov
2021-10-06 17:03         ` Mark Harmstone
2021-10-07 14:33           ` Konstantin Komarov
2021-10-07 18:26             ` Mark Harmstone [this message]
2021-10-07 20:12               ` Kari Argillander
2021-10-07 20:34                 ` Mark Harmstone
2021-10-08  5:51                   ` Kari Argillander

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