From: John Groves <John@groves.net>
To: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: John Groves <john@jagalactic.com>, Dan Williams <djbw@kernel.org>,
John Groves <jgroves@micron.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
Ira Weiny <iweiny@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
"nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
"linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org" <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 5/7] dax: fix holder_ops race in fs_put_dax()
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 09:02:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahrrs8hg9mTpgePM@groves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7655b88-c56d-4d9a-8ae1-68eb9448bb87@intel.com>
On 26/05/26 05:16PM, Dave Jiang wrote:
>
>
> On 5/22/26 12:19 PM, John Groves wrote:
> > From: John Groves <John@Groves.net>
> >
> > Clear holder_ops before holder_data so that a concurrent fs_dax_get()
> > cannot have its newly installed holder_ops overwritten. Also add a
> > kerneldoc comment documenting that fs_put_dax() must only be called
> > by the current holder.
> >
> > Fixes: eec38f5d86d27 ("dax: add fs_dax_get() for devdax")
> > Signed-off-by: John Groves <john@groves.net>
>
> Couple things from Claude that may be worth taking a look at:
>
> 1. Memory ordering is now load-bearing and missing
>
> The whole correctness argument depends on the reader observing holder_ops =
> NULL before observing holder_data = NULL. The patch uses a plain store
> followed by cmpxchg. On x86 plain stores are ordered, but on arm64/ppc they
> are not — the reader can observe cmpxchg's release of holder_data while still
> seeing the old holder_ops. That puts us back in the dangerous (holder_data ==
> NULL, holder_ops == old) state on weakly-ordered arches.
>
> Required:
>
> smp_store_release(&dax_dev->holder_ops, NULL); /* publish ops=NULL first */
> cmpxchg(&dax_dev->holder_data, holder, NULL); /* then release holder_data
> */
Updating to WRITE_ONCE(), which I think is the right choice
>
> And the reader in dax_holder_notify_failure should use
> smp_load_acquire/READ_ONCE because today it reads dax_dev->holder_ops twice
> (line 334 and line 339), allowing tearing or stale-cache reads. Pre-existing
> weakness, but this patch is what makes the ordering matter.
>
> kill_dax (line 461-462) has the same naked-store pattern — it should be made
> consistent.
Will study this and post a separate patch for kill_dax if I think it's
warranted
>
> 2. Unconditional holder_ops = NULL is a behavior regression
>
> Pre-patch was defensive: if a caller passed the wrong holder, the cmpxchg
> failed and nothing got cleared.
>
> Post-patch clears holder_ops unconditionally whenever dax_dev && holder is
> truthy. A wrong-holder fs_put_dax() now actively damages the legitimate
> holder's state — sets holder_ops to NULL while holder_data retains the
> legitimate holder's pointer. From that point, all dax_holder_notify_failure()
> calls return -EOPNOTSUPP, silently breaking the legitimate holder's
> poison-recovery path.
This is a bit of a sticky wicket. The API contract is that the caller
of fs_dax_put() is the holder. To get the ordering right AND guard against
non-holder callers would require a lock.
Instead, I think the right answer is:
WRITE_ONCE(dax_dev->holder_ops, NULL);
WARN_ON(cmpxchg(&dax_dev->holder_data, holder, NULL) != holder);
If a non-holder calls this function, that's a bug and we'll get the
WARN_ON(). If a holder calls this function twice, we'll get the WARN_ON()
(the second time).
And when the API contract is honored, we have correct ordering.
>
> DJ
Thanks Dave!
John
<snip>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-30 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20260522191804.79088-1-john@jagalactic.com>
2026-05-22 19:18 ` [PATCH V2 0/7] Fixes to the previously-merged drivers/dax/fsdev series John Groves
2026-05-22 19:18 ` [PATCH V2 1/7] dax: fix misleading comment about share/index union in dax_folio_reset_order() John Groves
2026-05-26 23:07 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-29 23:41 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:18 ` [PATCH V2 2/7] dax/fsdev: fix multi-range offset, vmemmap_shift leak, and probe error cleanup John Groves
2026-05-26 23:22 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-29 23:59 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19 ` [PATCH V2 3/7] dax/fsdev: fix kaddr for multi-range and fail probe on invalid pgmap offset John Groves
2026-05-26 23:31 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 0:04 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19 ` [PATCH V2 4/7] dax/fsdev: clamp direct_access return to current physical range John Groves
2026-05-27 0:00 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 13:06 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19 ` [PATCH V2 5/7] dax: fix holder_ops race in fs_put_dax() John Groves
2026-05-27 0:16 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 14:02 ` John Groves [this message]
2026-05-30 14:32 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19 ` [PATCH V2 6/7] dax: replace exported dax_dev_get() with non-allocating dax_dev_find() John Groves
2026-05-27 0:28 ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 14:19 ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19 ` [PATCH V2 7/7] dax: fsdev.c minor formatting cleanup John Groves
2026-05-27 0:31 ` Dave Jiang
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