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From: John Groves <John@groves.net>
To: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: John Groves <john@jagalactic.com>, Dan Williams <djbw@kernel.org>,
	 John Groves <jgroves@micron.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	 Ira Weiny <iweiny@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	 "nvdimm@lists.linux.dev" <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org" <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 5/7] dax: fix holder_ops race in fs_put_dax()
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 09:02:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ahrrs8hg9mTpgePM@groves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7655b88-c56d-4d9a-8ae1-68eb9448bb87@intel.com>

On 26/05/26 05:16PM, Dave Jiang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/22/26 12:19 PM, John Groves wrote:
> > From: John Groves <John@Groves.net>
> > 
> > Clear holder_ops before holder_data so that a concurrent fs_dax_get()
> > cannot have its newly installed holder_ops overwritten. Also add a
> > kerneldoc comment documenting that fs_put_dax() must only be called
> > by the current holder.
> > 
> > Fixes: eec38f5d86d27 ("dax: add fs_dax_get() for devdax")
> > Signed-off-by: John Groves <john@groves.net>
> 
> Couple things from Claude that may be worth taking a look at:
> 
>   1. Memory ordering is now load-bearing and missing
> 
>   The whole correctness argument depends on the reader observing holder_ops =
>   NULL before observing holder_data = NULL. The patch uses a plain store
>   followed by cmpxchg. On x86 plain stores are ordered, but on arm64/ppc they
>   are not — the reader can observe cmpxchg's release of holder_data while still
>   seeing the old holder_ops. That puts us back in the dangerous (holder_data ==
>   NULL, holder_ops == old) state on weakly-ordered arches.
> 
>   Required:
> 
>   smp_store_release(&dax_dev->holder_ops, NULL);   /* publish ops=NULL first */
>   cmpxchg(&dax_dev->holder_data, holder, NULL);    /* then release holder_data
>   */

Updating to WRITE_ONCE(), which I think is the right choice

> 
>   And the reader in dax_holder_notify_failure should use
>   smp_load_acquire/READ_ONCE because today it reads dax_dev->holder_ops twice
>   (line 334 and line 339), allowing tearing or stale-cache reads. Pre-existing
>   weakness, but this patch is what makes the ordering matter.
> 
>   kill_dax (line 461-462) has the same naked-store pattern — it should be made
>   consistent.

Will study this and post a separate patch for kill_dax if I think it's
warranted

> 
>   2. Unconditional holder_ops = NULL is a behavior regression
> 
>   Pre-patch was defensive: if a caller passed the wrong holder, the cmpxchg
>   failed and nothing got cleared.
> 
>   Post-patch clears holder_ops unconditionally whenever dax_dev && holder is
>   truthy. A wrong-holder fs_put_dax() now actively damages the legitimate
>   holder's state — sets holder_ops to NULL while holder_data retains the
>   legitimate holder's pointer. From that point, all dax_holder_notify_failure()
>   calls return -EOPNOTSUPP, silently breaking the legitimate holder's
>   poison-recovery path.

This is a bit of a sticky wicket. The API contract is that the caller 
of fs_dax_put() is the holder. To get the ordering right AND guard against
non-holder callers would require a lock.

Instead, I think the right answer is:

    WRITE_ONCE(dax_dev->holder_ops, NULL);
    WARN_ON(cmpxchg(&dax_dev->holder_data, holder, NULL) != holder);

If a non-holder calls this function, that's a bug and we'll get the 
WARN_ON(). If a holder calls this function twice, we'll get the WARN_ON()
(the second time).

And when the API contract is honored, we have correct ordering.

> 
> DJ

Thanks Dave!

John

<snip>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-30 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260522191804.79088-1-john@jagalactic.com>
2026-05-22 19:18 ` [PATCH V2 0/7] Fixes to the previously-merged drivers/dax/fsdev series John Groves
2026-05-22 19:18   ` [PATCH V2 1/7] dax: fix misleading comment about share/index union in dax_folio_reset_order() John Groves
2026-05-26 23:07     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-29 23:41       ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:18   ` [PATCH V2 2/7] dax/fsdev: fix multi-range offset, vmemmap_shift leak, and probe error cleanup John Groves
2026-05-26 23:22     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-29 23:59       ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19   ` [PATCH V2 3/7] dax/fsdev: fix kaddr for multi-range and fail probe on invalid pgmap offset John Groves
2026-05-26 23:31     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30  0:04       ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19   ` [PATCH V2 4/7] dax/fsdev: clamp direct_access return to current physical range John Groves
2026-05-27  0:00     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 13:06       ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19   ` [PATCH V2 5/7] dax: fix holder_ops race in fs_put_dax() John Groves
2026-05-27  0:16     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 14:02       ` John Groves [this message]
2026-05-30 14:32         ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19   ` [PATCH V2 6/7] dax: replace exported dax_dev_get() with non-allocating dax_dev_find() John Groves
2026-05-27  0:28     ` Dave Jiang
2026-05-30 14:19       ` John Groves
2026-05-22 19:19   ` [PATCH V2 7/7] dax: fsdev.c minor formatting cleanup John Groves
2026-05-27  0:31     ` Dave Jiang

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